A potential way Pakistan can deal with the S-400 & THAAD

[Ultima Thule]

As explained previously these systems will be fired outside the range of S-400. Furthermore, the Indian radar system will not be able to know what fighter jets have these systems on board or not. This is another one of the advantaged of using these aero-ballistic missile as highlighted in the document I linked in my original statement. Even if they detected the missile after being fired, by that time it it is getting too late for them.

this S-400 vs Nasr type aero ballistic missiles discussion is not new but there were several past threads on it and discuss to death and not viable for indo-pak scenario, S-400 will not deploy very near to indo-pak border but 150 -200 km behind the border and so JFT will be closer to the border to fire Nasr type aero ballistic missiles so its within a detection and engagement range of S-400/S-300,

AND LAST NASR TYPE AERO BALLISTIC MISSILES CAN BE CARRY NUKES SO ENEMY ASSUME THAT WE STARTED A NUCLEAR WAR THAT MEANS FULL FLEDGED NUCLEAR WAR AND TOLTAL DESTRUCTION OF SUBCONTINENT
CASE CLOSED

 

[Philosopher]

@IAU

My friend, I am afraid I have to put a stop to our conversion because it has exhausted any potential and now I feel there is the danger of repeating and going in circles.

 

[zhxy]

The most effective method of dealing with S-400 is to use smart bombs, MLRS, and low-cost UAVs. Each S400 intercept cruise missiles is about 1 million usd, not cheap.

 

[Ultima Thule]

@IAU

My friend, I am afraid I have to put a stop to our conversion because it has exhausted any potential and now I feel there is the danger of repeating and going in circles.

this not applicable in indo-pak scenario, FEAR OF NUCLEAR WAR,
AND LETS END THIS ENDLESS DEBATE, LETS AGREE TO DISAGREE

 

[Oldman1]

Just keep it simple, put some MARV warheads, saturate the target and you be done.

 

[Akh1112]

Range of Nasr is 60km, weight is 1200Kg.

Which plane are you going to modify to carry it.

Well, you are forgetting a few things.

Air launched variants would not need to be as heavy due to them not having to carry as much fuel etc

Air launched variants would also have greater range as well, less aerodynamic friction, it would not need to accelerate from 0, if air launched it would be X+0 etc

Hence why stuff like the SLAMRAAM has such gimped range compared to the airlaunched variant

The best way to overcome THAAD or the S400 is to overwhelm them. Pak knows this, to counter the Indian's ABM cap we are producing more and more missiles, this is the most effective means of overcoming such a system since SEAD/DEAD may not be the easiest thing

 

[Beny Karachun]

Why does Pakistan need to deal with THAAD?
India has s400 so it is comprehensible. But none of your neighbours has THAAD.
Are you going to attack on Israel?

Israel doesn't have THAAD.

 

[Fawadqasim1]

No matter what we or anyone else produce or develop, for the next 10 to 20 years if you want to hit a mobile ABM/SAM system you will need to use subsonic terrain hugging stealthy cruse missiles/drones (in substantial numbers) with loiter ability/ capability( whether air launched sea launched or surface launched) and/or a long range mlrs with smart munitions all else on the table are good for a nuclear strike or a large static target but mostly useless against a modular, mobile, shoot and scoot target period all else is just rhetoric. @MastanKhan @FuturePAF @Philosopher

 

[MastanKhan]

Israel doesn't have THAAD.

Hi,

What air defense system did the US move to Israel after feb 27 last year---?

 

[KhanBaba2]

Well, you are forgetting a few things.

Air launched variants would not need to be as heavy due to them not having to carry as much fuel etc

Air launched variants would also have greater range as well, less aerodynamic friction, it would not need to accelerate from 0, if air launched it would be X+0 etc

No I did not forget anything. The OP has specifically said use existing rockets and get longer range.

 

[Zhukov]

Hi,

Is the center line hard point on the JF17 capable of handling a 1200 KG load---?

If surface to surface rang e of the Nasr is 70 km---then the air launched version of the same sized missile would be almost twice the range or more---.

Not to mention the extra weight of the Warhead in addition to massive weight of the missile itself. Might need a J-10 or a Flanker like Platform for such massive missile to go airborne.

 

[Beny Karachun]

Hi,

What air defense system did the US move to Israel after feb 27 last year---?

It was as a part of a training operation, planned a year ago, nothing to do with your 27th of february clashes, and they're not based in Israel anymore.

What world do you live in that you think Pakistan is going to attack Israel?

 

[MastanKhan]

It was as a part of a training operation, planned a year ago, nothing to do with your 27th of february clashes, and they're not based in Israel anymore.

What world do you live in that you think Pakistan is going to attack Israel?

Hi,

Didn't you mention last time that it was planned a month or two before that date---?

And where did I mention what you insinuate---?

 

[Akh1112]

No I did not forget anything. The OP has specifically said use existing rockets and get longer range.

Still would get longer range from strapping a ground launched variant onto a plane (ofc this is an absurd concept and entirely theoretical) but yes you would get extended range

 

[Beny Karachun]

Didn't you mention last time that it was planned a month or two before that date---?

Last time I talked about it was over a year ago, this is a yearly exercise that is planned long before it starts.

Sorry about the last part I was referring to him

Are you going to attack on Israel?