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With the American Presidency heading in the direction unknown and the arrival of Donald J Trump in the White House, it seems all the cult of campaign promises will continue in the American Government and foreign Policy.

One of the campaign promises was the moving the American embassy to Jerusalem fro Tel e-aviv. This move will officially end the two state solution but it also means that the city of Jerusalem will also be a part of Israel and will end the west bank claim on it. Israel has over the past years slow pushed it's self in the West Bank area like the spread of a slow poison and reducing the claim of Palestinians over the land. The two state solution dead, Palestine will be a name lost to history and will be replaced by the Imaginary terrorist regime of Israel. Israel has tried to restrict the population of Muslims in Palestine by a slow genocide of young children to maintain it's status of democracy as the figures show in the case of one state if democracy prevails Muslims will rule the state of Israel and if Israel rules out democracy it will remain an occupying force in the Holy Land.
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The arrival of DJ Trump in the White House and his policy of moving the embassy to Jerusalem is a seismic event than might push the Islamic world on a crash course with the Israeli friendly world. The major force that will be used against Israel in this type of event is the nature of Muslims to turn into mujaheddin and fight against an oppressor but Israel has already corrupted the ideology by developing the ISIS and labeling them as terrorist so any activity of developing a Mujaheddin force against Israel will be instantly labeled as terrorist by the Europe, American and other powers sympathetic to Jews. This only leaves the option for Islamic states to act with force and the very Nation of Syria responsible for going to war with Israel against it's atrocities is currently in ruins. Egypt and Jordan are considered as strategic partners of Israel and will shut their eyes from any Israeli move. Saudis are obsessed with stop any progress made by Iran and are busy to counter Iran's new developing position so they will not find any time for the Palestine issue. This leaves the burden on Pakistan and Turkey the remaining two great Muslim powers. The ball is left in the court of Pakistan. Now the biggest Question is

What will Pakistan do?..............

1. Will it act
OR
2. Will it hold back

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Where is Iran and others in there? Isnt Iran a muslim state? Why did you not mentioned Iran in your 2 cents writing? Iran's new developing position in what? Waging sectarian wars in Muslims countries and killing innocents in Syria and Iraq using proxies? Isnt Iran the biggest enemy of Isreal? Isnt every second day, Irani mullas are there giving statements against Isreal and US?
And Turkey is stuck in PKK and Syria issue, and Pakistan with terrorism, economic development and Kashmir issue.
The ball is left in the court of Iran. Lets see your true homeland does anything against this D. Trump decision or not?
 
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So basically we will see every muslim country dodging the ball to others court and showcasing they have any spine left to hit israel and allies.
 
So basically we will see every muslim country dodging the ball to others court and showcasing they have any spine left to hit israel and allies.
Everyone is stuck with his own issues. Well the last time they did, they lost their own terrorities.
 
Where is Iran and others in there? Isnt Iran a muslim state? Why did you not mentioned Iran in your 2 cents writing? Iran's new developing position in what? Waging sectarian wars in Muslims countries and killing innocents in Syria and Iraq using proxies? Isnt Iran the biggest enemy of Isreal? Isnt every second day, Irani mullas are there giving statements against Isreal and US?
And Turkey is stuck in PKK and Syria issue, and Pakistan with economic development and Kashmir issue.
The ball is left in the court of Iran. Lets see your true homeland does anything against this D. Trump decision or not?
Iran and Saudis are busy in their proxy war so counting them in at the moment is currently difficult but may later in time when they get free from each other. There is much will in Iran to fight Israel more than any country they have made the most effort in the Palestine issue by standing firm against American opposition and aggression. Syria is not the fault of Iran it is Saudis USA and Europe fault more in starting the war but Iran went too far in defending Assad's leader ship but currently Syria is in cease fire hope it will stand back up.
I did not mentioned Iran so that this thread is not converted to Iran and Saudi war but remains on the issue in Hand.

So basically we will see every muslim country dodging the ball to others court and denying they have any spine lefft to hit israel.
Turkey and Pakistan have enough spine to counter Israel and they will but rest of the nations have to make decisions on many issues.
 
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Pakistan will be stand where humanity will be stand. No matter what
 
Where is Iran and others in there? Isnt Iran a muslim state? Why did you not mentioned Iran in your 2 cents writing? Iran's new developing position in what? Waging sectarian wars in Muslims countries and killing innocents in Syria and Iraq using proxies? Isnt Iran the biggest enemy of Isreal? Isnt every second day, Irani mullas are there giving statements against Isreal and US?
And Turkey is stuck in PKK and Syria issue, and Pakistan with economic development and Kashmir issue.
The ball is left in the court of Iran. Lets see your true homeland does anything against this D. Trump decision or not?
Leave Israel to us.
And stop being sarcastic. Losing Syria to west will ensure Israel's safety forever. My retarded friend. You shall be attacking ISIS supporters. Who did support them with high tech weapons. I have seen some stupids in this forum accusing Iran of supporting ISIS. This is a wonderful forum. Hu @Khafee ?
Moreover we are proud of fighting ISIS in Syria. Find an other Ridiculous issue to challenge us.
Iran and Saudis are busy in their proxy war so counting them in at the moment is currently difficult but may later in time when they get free from each other. There is much will in Iran to fight Israel more than any country they have made the most effort in the Palestine issue by standing firm against American opposition and aggression. Syria is not the fault of Iran it is Saudis USA and Europe fault more in starting the war but Iran went too far in defending Assad's leader ship but currently Syria is in cease fire hope it will stand back up.


Turkey and Pakistan have enough spine to counter Israel and they will but rest of the nations have to make decisions on many issues.
Actually we need Egypt. Iran cannot change their attitude but i hope China and Russia would bring Egypt back to us.
 
Leave Israel to us.
And stop being sarcastic. Losing Syria to west will ensure Israel's safety forever. My retarded friend. You shall be attacking ISIS supporters. Who did support them with high tech weapons. I have seen some stupids in this forum accusing Iran of supporting ISIS. This is a wonderful forum. Hu @Khafee ?
Moreover we are proud of fighting ISIS in Syria. Find an other Ridiculous issue to challenge us.

Please stay on the Issue of Israel don't make it Wahabi/Shia war. Few people will try to ignite the fire to divert for the issue of Palestine.
 
Please stay on the Issue of Israel don't make it Wahabi/Shia war. Few people will try to ignite the fire to divert for the issue of Palestine.
I told you mate. We need Egyptian boundaries to supply GAZA with high tech weapons. It's the only solution.
Jordan is safety cordon of Israel against us. We can never count on them to supply Palestinian groups. Egypt !!!
Iran sent Fajr-5 missiles Shaher snipers and anti-tank missiles to Gaza under green light of Morsi. 1 year was too short LOL
 
If war broke out and Israel saw itself as about to lose...Nukes would fly and that being Israeli and likely U.S ones too. That's if the U.S hasn't already stepped in conventionally.

Best thing would be to work on state of the art delivery systems to ensure MAD as no world war 3 will be limited to just conventional weapons. Especially with Zionist extremists in control.
 
Iran and Saudis are busy in their proxy war so counting them in at the moment is currently difficult but may later in time when they get free from each other. There is much will in Iran to fight Israel more than any country they have made the most effort in the Palestine issue by standing firm against American opposition and aggression. Syria is not the fault of Iran it is Saudis USA and Europe fault more in starting the war but Iran went too far in defending Assad's leader ship but currently Syria is in cease fire hope it will stand back up.


Turkey and Pakistan have enough spine to counter Israel and they will but rest of the nations have to make decisions on many issues.
Pakistan and Turkey are fighting the terrorists those rose arms against their sovereignty, and both are dealing terrorists in neighbouring countries directly or indirectly. And Pakistan is dealing with Indian proxies too internally.
And on the other side what Iran is doing other than spreading hate speech and sectarianism, and intervening in other Muslim countries through proxies? Why Iran has to deal with Suadi proxies? Is KSA planning to start a war or just Iran wants the domination of Shias in other countries? If Iran is more willing to fight Isreal, then whats their stand against Mr. Trump's decision? Did you listen a single statement from any Irani official against this decision? Will they stop using proxies against KSA and deal with Isreal first? I think No! Their only powerful proxy Hezbullah is fighting FSA along other Shias militias.
So you accepted Iran is openly intervening in other countries like Syria but they cant do a single act against Isreal other than talking two cents?

Leave Israel to us.
And stop being sarcastic. Losing Syria to west will ensure Israel's safety forever. My retarded friend. You shall be attacking ISIS supporters. Who did support them with high tech weapons. I have seen some stupids in this forum accusing Iran of supporting ISIS. This is a wonderful forum. Hu @Khafee ?
Moreover we are proud of fighting ISIS in Syria. Find an other Ridiculous issue to challenge us.

Actually we need Egypt. Iran cannot change their attitude but i hope China and Russia would bring Egypt back to us.
And you dont give a single :F about hundreds of thousands of innocents killed in Syria war. Will Syria strong more than ever after this civil war? LOL. If you wanted Syria to be strong you would have asked Mr. Asad to lay down his presidency or not using his power against civilians. But then there comes sectarian factor. And im not accusing Iran of supporting ISIS, but im surprised they didnt give a single statement against Iran.
 
Pakistan and Turkey are fighting the terrorists those rose arms against their sovereignty, and both are dealing terrorists in neighbouring countries directly or indirectly. And Pakistan is dealing with Indian proxies too internally.
And on the other side what Iran is doing other than spreading hate speech and sectarianism, and intervening in other Muslim countries through proxies? Why Iran has to deal with Suadi proxies? Is KSA planning to start a war or just Iran wants the domination of Shias in other countries? If Iran is more willing to fight Isreal, then whats their stand against Mr. Trump's decision? Did you listen a single statement from any Irani official against this decision? Will they stop using proxies against KSA and deal with Isreal first? I think No! Their only powerful proxy Hezbullah is fighting FSA along other Shias militias.
So you accepted Iran is openly intervening in other countries like Syria but they cant do a single act against Isreal other than talking two cents?
Missile Technology to Hamas

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Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu (2nd L) and Defence Minister Moshe Yaalon (L) look at a display of alleged Iran-supplied and Gaza-bound mortar shells.Amir Cohen/Reuters file photo
A top Iranian military official has admitted that Tehran supplied military technology to the Palestine-based militant group Hamas in its battle against Israel.

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"Palestinian resistance missiles are the blessings of Iran's transfer of technology. We need to transfer defensive and military technology to Palestinians so that they can build weapons under the blockade and defend themselves," Mohsen Rezaei, a senior official at the Expediency Discernment Council, told the state-run Arabic channel Al-Alam.

The EDC is a consultative and decision-making body that advises Grand Ayatollah Sayyid
Ali Khamenei.

Iran, a staunch supporter of Hamas, has constantly condemned the Israeli offensive in the Gaza Strip.

In the past too, Iranian military officials said they had shared missile technologies with Hamas.

In the recent month-long conflict, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) has said 3,253 rockets were fired from Gaza towards Israel.

Most of them were intercepted by Israel's Iron Dome while a few fell in empty areas.

In a letter to Iranian President Hassan Rohani, Rezaei said: "I've requested Rohani to provide air defence systems to Gaza so that Palestinians can defend themselves against invading planes. The Americans in recent days approved about $300 million to strengthen [Israel's] Iron Dome. You should provide air defence systems to Palestinians to be able to defend their people against aerial bombardment."

The Iranian defence minister has also expressed support for Hamas. He said the country's Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps' (IRGC) is ready to assist Palestine at various levels.

Addressing Iran's military commanders, Hossein Dehqan said: "The usurper Zionist regime should be punished [for their fighting in Gaza]. Today the human society is standing at a strategic decision-making juncture and it has to show that humans, humanity and human life as well as protecting human values are still important."
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Iranian Missiles in Gaza Fight Give Tehran Government a Lift


By THOMAS ERDBRINKNOV. 21, 2012

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Iranian officials have not been shy about taking credit for the changes in the battlefield, even though analysts noted that admitting to transferring weaponry could lead to future reprisals. “We proudly say we support the Palestinians, military and financially,” the head of Iran’s Parliament, Ali Larijani, told local reporters this week. “The Zionist regime needs to realize that Palestinian military power comes from Iranian military power.”

Mr. Larijani even nodded to the other problems facing Iran, which suddenly did not loom so large. “We may have inflation, unemployment and other economic issues in our country,” he said. “But we are changing the region, and this will be a big achievement.”

The highest commander of the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps, Mohammad Ali Jafari, was even more blunt. Missile technology, he said, “has been transferred to the resistance, and an unlimited number of these missiles is being built.”

The celebration in Tehran might not last long, analysts say. Hamas leaders were lavish in their praise of Mr. Morsi for his role in arranging the cease-fire, saying he had well represented the group’s interests. And Egypt could close the tunnels that are used to smuggle the missiles into Gaza.

Nevertheless, they say, the fighting has done much to repair the damage to Iran’s regional image inflicted by the Syrian conflict. “This war has brought Iran and Hamas back together, and the debate over the Syrian issue is over,” said Hamid-Reza Taraghi, who heads the international department of the influential Islamic Coalition Party.

In the end, Iran’s leaders believe that military power is the only measure of success, and they have little faith that cease-fires and diplomacy will accomplish anything lasting. For average Iranians, though, Iran’s missile program and the events in Gaza are faraway problems, and many said the triumph may be short-lived.

“Maybe in the short term Iran is increasing its influence among the Palestinians, but politics are fast nowadays,” said Allahgoli Abbaspour, 53, a shop owner. “The Palestinians need their independence, but I doubt they will ever get it. It’s not like normal Iranians have anything to say about this.”

Ramtin Rastin contributed reporting.
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Iran Celebrates Use of Rockets Supplied to Hamas
Iran: ‘All Zionists are within the range of the resistance's missiles'
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Smoke trails are seen after missiles are fired by Palestinian militants from Gaza City towards southern Israel / AP


BY: Adam Kredo
July 14, 2014 1:42 pm

Iranian military leaders on Monday celebrated Hamas’ use of advanced long-range rockets that were supplied to the terror group by the Iranian regime.

Iran’s role in arming Hamas militants with more sophisticated artillery capable of reaching deep into Israel has fueled concerns among lawmakers that U.S. negotiators are not doing enough to address Iran’s support for terror during ongoing nuclear discussions.

Israeli and United Nations officials have confirmed that Hamas is firing rockets on civilians provided to it by Iran.


A Senior Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) general praised Hamas’ rocket attacks on Monday and warned that between Hamas and other Iranian-backed terror groups, “all Zionists are within the range of the resistance’s missiles.”

“The defense capacity and capabilities of the Islamic resistance and Hamas forces has left no safe place for the Zionists in the occupied territories,” General Ramezan Sharif, head of the IRGC’s public relations department, said in public remarks Monday.

Palestinian terror groups, including Hamas and other Iranian-backed groups, are well armed and can strike Jewish civilians inside and outside of Israel, Sharif said.

“The quality and trend of action of the Palestinian resistance movement in recent days indicates that the defensive and offensive power of Hamas, Ezzedin Al-Qassam, and Quds brigades forces have increased so much that one can dare say that all Zionists are within the range of the resistance’s missiles,” Sharif was quoted as saying by Iran’s semi-official Fars News Agency.

The Quds brigades are an elite Iranian force that trains terrorists, including Hezbollah, and is responsible for waging terror attacks across the Middle East against Western targets.

Iran’s arming of Hamas is beginning to receive attention at the highest levels of the U.S. government as the terror group continues to barrage Israel with more sophisticated rockets aimed at Tel Aviv, Jerusalem, and even the northern city of Haifa.

House lawmakers explicitly referenced Iran’s role in the conflict in a recent resolution supporting Israel’s right to self-defense.

“Iran has long provided material support to Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad, including assistance that has enabled these terrorist organizations to produce longer-range rockets capable of striking Tel Aviv and Jerusalem,” the resolution stated.

Rep. Ed Royce (R., Calif.), the author of the resolution’s Iran-related language, said the regime’s proud support of Hamas should give U.S. negotiators “pause” and indicates that Tehran cannot be trusted to abandon its nuclear program.

“The failure of the government in Iran to adjust its behavior … gives us pause on how much seriousness they’re putting into these [nuclear] negotiations,” Royce was quoted as saying late Friday during a meeting with reporters.

The State Department has said that it shares Congress’ concerns, but that the issue is not being broached during nuclear talks with Iran, which are set to expire on July 20.

State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki confirmed in a July 9 briefing that she is “not aware” of the issue of Iran’s support for Hamas being mentioned during talks.

“The focus is on the nuclear issue,” she said. “There’s plenty to discuss on that particular issue.”

“How do you discuss just nuclear issues with Iran when all this is going on, them supplying rockets to Hamas or Syria, and also possible destabilizing efforts in Iraq?” a reporter followed up, according to the official transcript.

“Obviously resolving the nuclear issue and preventing Iran from acquiring a nuclear weapon is not the only issue we have with Iran,” Psaki said. “But it’s such an important issue and it’s one that’s vital to our national security interests and to the security of the region that we feel a focus on that at these discussions is absolutely appropriate.”

A State Department spokesman on Monday did not respond to further inquiries about conversations it may or may not have had with Iran about Hamas.

House insiders working on the nuclear issue have expressed frustration over the administration’s hesitance to broach Iran’s larger support for terror groups such as Hamas.

“As the administration continues nuclear negotiations with Iran—the world’s largest state sponsor of terrorism—its proxy Hamas is firing hundreds of rockets at population centers in Israel,” one senior House aide told the Washington Free Beacon. “It’s becoming increasingly harder for the president to ignore the Iran-funded terrorism coming out of the Gaza Strip, which thus far he’s brazenly overlooked in order to preserve prospects for a final nuclear agreement with Iran.”

Why are you asking of Iran but not Saudis? What have they done except spreading religious and racial hate in Syria?
They attacked Yemen under command of USA and in Israel's favor.
What kind of a moron are you?
Sunnis are also dying in Yemen because Al-Sauds are bullying that country.
When will you retardedos understand?
 
Pakistan and Turkey are fighting the terrorists those rose arms against their sovereignty, and both are dealing terrorists in neighbouring countries directly or indirectly. And Pakistan is dealing with Indian proxies too internally.
And on the other side what Iran is doing other than spreading hate speech and sectarianism, and intervening in other Muslim countries through proxies? Why Iran has to deal with Suadi proxies? Is KSA planning to start a war or just Iran wants the domination of Shias in other countries? If Iran is more willing to fight Isreal, then whats their stand against Mr. Trump's decision? Did you listen a single statement from any Irani official against this decision? Will they stop using proxies against KSA and deal with Isreal first? I think No! Their only powerful proxy Hezbullah is fighting FSA along other Shias militias.
So you accepted Iran is openly intervening in other countries like Syria but they cant do a single act against Isreal other than talking two cents?

Pakistan has dismantled Indian terror. Zarb-e-Azb has cleansed and minimized Indian terror in Pakistan. LOL We got a few daicots in Baluchistan who are about to be turned into rubble. India can only sponsor sporadic terror attacks here and there, but we always repay them in kind. India has been checkmated by Pakistan China nexus in many ways.

We couldn't care less about world wars. Let them all fight it out as long as it does not affect us. Yes, we are going to take a side, but we won't get embroiled.

As for Israel, fvck them. They are always going to be stuck in a war they cannot win. They are always going to feel threatened by their surrounding and this is never going to change. That is what happens when you build apartheid walls and try to steal something that belongs to others.
 
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And you dont give a single :F about hundreds of thousands of innocents killed in Syria war. Will Syria strong more than ever after this civil war? LOL. If you wanted Syria to be strong you would have asked Mr. Asad to lay down his presidency or not using his power against civilians. But then there comes sectarian factor. And im not accusing Iran of supporting ISIS, but im surprised they didnt give a single statement against Iran.
Syria is our ally. The only Sunni country that stands up to Israel. The only country which helps Lebanon to fight Israel.
Who is civilian in your opinion? ISIS, Al Nusra or Al-Qaeda? Which one should we spare?
 

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