A Milestone: Per IMF 2018 GDP Data, China Per Capital GDP exceeds $10K,

[Dungeness]

IMF just published World Economy Outlook for 2018. China's GDP now stands at $14 trillion, and per capital GDP exceeds $10,000. A remarkable achievement for 1/5 of humanity.

http://www.imf.org/external/datamapper/NGDPDPC@WEO/OEMDC/ADVEC/WEOWORLD

@TaiShang @Chinese-Dragon @Martian2 @AndrewJin @beijingwalker @Nilgiri @Joe Shearer

 

[atan651]

A conspiracy to force China to make concessions to the US in their trade talk, imo.

 

[Mista]

A conspiracy to force China to make concessions to the US in their trade talk, imo.

Portraying China in a negative light = Western propaganda, biased, ignorance
Portraying China in a positive light = Conspiracy, ulterior motive

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Portraying China in a negative light = Western propaganda, biased, ignorance
Portraying China in a positive light = Conspiracy, ulterior motive

What are you trying to say?

 

[Mista]

What are you trying to say?

Whatever the West do, their intentions are malicious?

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Whatever the West do, their intentions are malicious?

Not the entire West, some western countries are either neutral or friendly to China.

But if we are talking about the USA, absolutely. They have officially labelled us a major rival, along with Russia. If they say that officially, imagine what they say unofficially?

China is still a developing country, we don't need any extra global responsibilities. Just see our per capita pollution output, despite having outsourced most of the world's pollution (by being the factory of the world) our per capita pollution output is still multiple times lower than that of the developed world.

 

[jhungary]

Whatever the West do, their intentions are malicious?

You cannot talk sense into some people. That's the universal truth.

People that are like that, usually is paranoid to begin with, which mean whatever you say, he or she will spin to a way that is going to be hostile to them.

But what they don't know is this collective mentality that cause them to begin being paranoid.

so...…...

 

[Mista]

But if we are talking about the USA, absolutely.

So if major US news outlet such as the WSJ or NYT writes about China in a positive light, you think they actually have malicious intention and it's a conspiracy?

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

So if major US news outlet such as the WSJ or NYT writes about China in a positive light, you think they actually have malicious intention and it's a conspiracy?

I think it is likely they have malicious intent, and I don't think it's a conspiracy. Just plain old bias and prejudice.

Alternatively they could be sucking up to China in order to access the Chinese consumer market.

I think that it is extremely unlikely that they would write anything positive about China from a purely altruistic standpoint.

I'm talking about the USA here, not the entire western world (many of whom are either neutral or friendly to China). I'm talking about the USA which has officially designated China as a major rival power (i.e. an enemy) alongside Russia. And that's just what they say officially.

 

[Mista]

I think it is likely they have malicious intent, and I don't think it's a conspiracy. Just plain old bias and prejudice.

Alternatively they could be sucking up to China in order to access the Chinese consumer market.

I think that it is extremely unlikely that they would write anything positive about China from a purely altruistic standpoint.

Why so? The US media functions differently from the Chinese media. Many of their writers and editors don't toe the lines of their government, but they are still allowed to publish.

It's just plain generalization to view Americans as a rival and therefore they harbor ulterior motives.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Why so? The US media functions differently from the Chinese media. Many of their writers and editors don't toe the lines of their government, but they are still allowed to publish.

It's just plain generalization to view Americans as a rival and therefore they harbor ulterior motives.

Didn't you read what I wrote twice in a row?

The US has OFFICIALLY labeled China as a major strategic rival, nobody forced them to do that. They just finally, under the Trump administration told the truth.

China did not do that, I did not do that. It was the USA that did that, they officially and unofficially see us as rivals, and they have been working to that end since the birth of the PRC, when their precious KMT lost the Civil War, and after they threatened to use nuclear weapons on us as they were retreating during the Korean War. (They were nuke-happy even before Donald Trump).

I think it would be incredibly naive to believe that the USA and their press would ever write anything positive about China, for purely altruistic motivations. I don't deny that it is possible in one or two cases, but those would be an anomaly. I believe in most cases they would either have malicious intentions, neutrality (no intentions), or would otherwise be seeking access to the Chinese consumer market. Altruistic intentions would be extremely unlikely.

Why so? The US media functions differently from the Chinese media. Many of their writers and editors don't toe the lines of their government, but they are still allowed to publish.

You mean like Hong Kong media, such as the Apple Daily?

 

[Mista]

Didn't you read what I wrote twice in a row?

The US has OFFICIALLY labeled China as a major strategic rival, nobody forced them to do that. They just finally, under the Trump administration told the truth.

China did not do that, I did not do that. It was the USA that did that, they officially and unofficially see us as rivals, and they have been working to that end since the birth of the PRC, when their precious KMT lost the Civil War, and after they threatened to use nuclear weapons on us as they were retreating during the Korean War. (They were nuke-happy even before Donald Trump).

I think it would be incredibly naive to believe that the USA and their press would ever write anything positive about China, for purely altruistic motivations. I don't deny that it is possible in one or two cases, but those would be an anomaly. I believe in most cases they would either have malicious intentions, neutrality (no intentions), or would otherwise be seeking access to the Chinese consumer market. Altruistic intentions would be extremely unlikely.



You mean like Hong Kong media, such as the Apple Daily?

Lol ok if you think so, that the American media are all subservient to their government and harbor ulterior motives in most articles they write, because nothing much I can say if you have such a strong belief who regard any contrary belief as naivety.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Lol ok if you think so, that the American media are all subservient to their government and harbor ulterior motives in most articles they write, because nothing much I can say if you have such a strong belief who regard any contrary belief as naivety.

I never said that, nor do I believe it. In fact I specifically said: "I don't think it's a conspiracy. Just plain old bias and prejudice."

... and I don't think it's a conspiracy. Just plain old bias and prejudice.

And you seem to be deliberately avoiding the part where the US has officially labeled China as a rival. Who forced them to do that?

And I'll admit anti-US sentiment runs high here, but that's the case all over the world, even in other Western countries like the EU, Canada and Australia. What else do you expect when the USA drops a bomb on someone's head every few minutes.

There is a reason why Americans pretend to be Canadians when they travel overseas, for their own physical safety.

 

[Mista]

And you seem to be deliberately avoiding the part where the US has officially labeled China as a rival. Who forced them to do that?

So? Does that have anything to do the IMF putting China's GDP per capita above $10K? Its intention is to pressure China into opening her markets?

Plain old bias you say? You seem more biased than them.

And I'll admit anti-US sentiment runs high here, but that's the case all over the world, even in other Western countries like the EU, Canada and Australia. What else do you expect when the USA drops a bomb on someone's head every few minutes.

And polls show that the majority of these places have positive view of the US and support American military intervention in Iraq and Syria.

If these places are truly anti-American, they won't be consuming American movies, dramas and music every day.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

So? Does that have anything to do the IMF putting China's GDP per capita above $10K? Its intention is to pressure China into opening her markets?

Plain old bias you say? You seem more biased than them.



And polls show that the majority of these places have positive view of the US and support American military intervention in Iraq and Syria.

If these places are truly anti-American, they won't be consuming American movies, dramas and music every day.

I was responding to your post in the first place, the only connection to the IMF is the fact that America has the largest voting rights in that organization.

And those 2016 (before Trump) graphs above are truly very selective, why do they only list a small handful of countries per chart? Why only the action against ISIS and not the Iraq War which created the power vacuum there in the first place, leading to the emergence of ISIS?

Your pro-American behaviour is not surprising in hindsight. I freely admit that I am biased against the USA which has officially labelled my country as a major rival. Nobody forced them to do that.