A father at the protest whose daughter is being held hostage at Jamia Hafsa

[Zarvan]

Right now , he can't have the armed terrorists comming to save him ?
He don't wanna die ?
He is just using that ugly inccedent as the lever to get whatever he wanted?
& that's just a bluff !.
Students can't just themselves take things into thier control .


Ohh so , that was moon where mukti bahni got trained?
For what ?
Ohh selling the dam flowers to pak army?


Sory we have basic difference of oppinion on that ?
& will always ?
Lal masjid incident was prapogandated by our dam right wing politicians who were kicked out of political loop because of thier random crouption ?
& GHAZI ABUDUL RASHEED was fooled by them ?
To wage a war of independence from so called American backed dictator?
All the dam so called killed , girls , kids , women's was just a shamefully lie at that time , which was added by all the anti -musharaf audience even in the media ?


Sure that's an idea I like but , more smart sanctions on him , like moving jamia hafza out of Islamabad ?
& giving the records of his students ?
Checking of the regestered students every month?
If he not stops supporting TTp with his dam sermons then , he should be ban for a time space like 90 days ?
Can bring few more ?


Nothing will happen like what had happened in lal masjid before?
Even if we aresst mullah Aziz , but it will bring him more fame that's it?
I mean TTp won't carry out any attack for him aat any prison?
But that fool will get fame bby our stupid terrorist sympathetic media for sure .

Mr same will happen TTP is on death bed this move will give them life and massive boost let him talk thrash he is damaging himself

 

[Saifullah Sani]

Distraught man claims daughter being ‘held’ in Jamia Hafsa

An old, distraught father joined the civil society’s campaign against Maulana Abdul Aziz of Lal Masjid on Monday, but for a difficult battle of his own.

Father Abdul Qayyum surprised the campaigners, gathered at the Aabpara police station, to ask the police to add charges under anti-terrorism law to the FIR against the maulana, by presenting his own grievance against the maulana’s wife, Umme Hassan.

It looked strange that while the civil society is campaigning to ‘free’ Lal Masjid from Maulana Aziz, Mr Qayyum is out to ‘free’ his daughter from the Jamia Hafsa seminary for girls run by Umm-e-Hassan.

A resident of Muslim Town locality in Rawalpindi who played professional cricket for the Gulf state of Sharjah, Mr. Qayyum claimed that his graduate daughter Uzma deserted the family seven months ago, and was ‘being kept’ in Jamia Hafsa.

Uzma, 26, did a four-year course in a religious educational institute after her graduation and left her home suddenly one night, according to her father.

A burial shroud she left on her bed signified she was gone for good.

Later, a call came from Umm-e-Hassan informing that she had taken up residence in Jamia Hafsa, said the father.

All his efforts since to regain her have failed, he said.

“I wrote to religious figures for help but none responded. I tried to file a complaint against Jamia Hafsa but Aabpara police won’t do that. A gunman of Lal Masjid tortured me in front of the Aabpara police station for trying that,” he said.

When the parents’ pleas pestered her too much, he alleged, Umm-e-Hassan threatened leveling “such a shameful charge that I would not be able to survive in the society”.

“My daughter is willing to return home but Umm-e-Hassan never allowed me to meet her in privacy. I feel she has brainwashed my daughter,” Mr Qayyum claimed to Dawn.

His young, bearded companion, Muhammad Imran, gave a new angle to the story by saying that he was engaged to Uzma three years ago and had left immediately afterwards for Saudi Arabia.

“When I came back, I learnt that Uzma has gone to Jamia Hafsa and is not willing to return home. I have tried many times to contact her but failed,” he said.

Mr. Qayyum added that he had requested Umm-e-Hassan to arrange Imran’s Nikah with Uzma and let her go with her husband but she replied that Istikhara (guidance from holy Quran) did not favour the match.

Umm-e-Hassan, however, denied all the allegations against her to Dawn.

She said Uzma came to her institution saying she did not want to live with her “harassing” father.

“Since we are already burdened with so many difficulties, I was not ready to take a new responsibility. I tried my best to persuade her to return to her family but she refused. I also offered her to arrange her Nikah with Imran and leave with him but she again refused, saying that her Istikhara did not approve of the union,” said the head of Jamia Hafsa.

“Still I did not want to keep her in Jamia Hafsa. I knew that her family would level allegations against me so I decided to send her to a magistrate. He initially sent her to Darul Aman (a government shelter for women) and after four days recorded her statement in which she said that she wants to live in Jamia Hafsa. So the court sent her here,” she said.

“She is 26 years old and according to the laws of Pakistan and Islam she has the right to live anywhere she wants. That becomes an issue when parents want to force their children to marry a person of their choice but in this case it seems it is so just because the girl is in Jamia Hafsa. “Everyone wants that she should marry against her wish,” said Umm-e-Hassan.

SHO Khalid Awan of Aabpara Police Station agreed that the law is on the girl’s side. In the statement she recorded under section 164 before Magistrate Kamran Cheema (on July 10, 2014) she said that she does not want to live with her parents.

“We cannot file a case because, according to the law, every adult Pakistani has the right to live wherever he or she wants to live,” said the officer.

Distraught man claims daughter being ‘held’ in Jamia Hafsa - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

 

[batmannow]

Distraught man claims daughter being ‘held’ in Jamia Hafsa

An old, distraught father joined the civil society’s campaign against Maulana Abdul Aziz of Lal Masjid on Monday, but for a difficult battle of his own.

Father Abdul Qayyum surprised the campaigners, gathered at the Aabpara police station, to ask the police to add charges under anti-terrorism law to the FIR against the maulana, by presenting his own grievance against the maulana’s wife, Umme Hassan.

It looked strange that while the civil society is campaigning to ‘free’ Lal Masjid from Maulana Aziz, Mr Qayyum is out to ‘free’ his daughter from the Jamia Hafsa seminary for girls run by Umm-e-Hassan.

A resident of Muslim Town locality in Rawalpindi who played professional cricket for the Gulf state of Sharjah, Mr. Qayyum claimed that his graduate daughter Uzma deserted the family seven months ago, and was ‘being kept’ in Jamia Hafsa.

Uzma, 26, did a four-year course in a religious educational institute after her graduation and left her home suddenly one night, according to her father.

A burial shroud she left on her bed signified she was gone for good.

Later, a call came from Umm-e-Hassan informing that she had taken up residence in Jamia Hafsa, said the father.

All his efforts since to regain her have failed, he said.

“I wrote to religious figures for help but none responded. I tried to file a complaint against Jamia Hafsa but Aabpara police won’t do that. A gunman of Lal Masjid tortured me in front of the Aabpara police station for trying that,” he said.

When the parents’ pleas pestered her too much, he alleged, Umm-e-Hassan threatened leveling “such a shameful charge that I would not be able to survive in the society”.

“My daughter is willing to return home but Umm-e-Hassan never allowed me to meet her in privacy. I feel she has brainwashed my daughter,” Mr Qayyum claimed to Dawn.

His young, bearded companion, Muhammad Imran, gave a new angle to the story by saying that he was engaged to Uzma three years ago and had left immediately afterwards for Saudi Arabia.

“When I came back, I learnt that Uzma has gone to Jamia Hafsa and is not willing to return home. I have tried many times to contact her but failed,” he said.

Mr. Qayyum added that he had requested Umm-e-Hassan to arrange Imran’s Nikah with Uzma and let her go with her husband but she replied that Istikhara (guidance from holy Quran) did not favour the match.

Umm-e-Hassan, however, denied all the allegations against her to Dawn.

She said Uzma came to her institution saying she did not want to live with her “harassing” father.

“Since we are already burdened with so many difficulties, I was not ready to take a new responsibility. I tried my best to persuade her to return to her family but she refused. I also offered her to arrange her Nikah with Imran and leave with him but she again refused, saying that her Istikhara did not approve of the union,” said the head of Jamia Hafsa.

“Still I did not want to keep her in Jamia Hafsa. I knew that her family would level allegations against me so I decided to send her to a magistrate. He initially sent her to Darul Aman (a government shelter for women) and after four days recorded her statement in which she said that she wants to live in Jamia Hafsa. So the court sent her here,” she said.

“She is 26 years old and according to the laws of Pakistan and Islam she has the right to live anywhere she wants. That becomes an issue when parents want to force their children to marry a person of their choice but in this case it seems it is so just because the girl is in Jamia Hafsa. “Everyone wants that she should marry against her wish,” said Umm-e-Hassan.

SHO Khalid Awan of Aabpara Police Station agreed that the law is on the girl’s side. In the statement she recorded under section 164 before Magistrate Kamran Cheema (on July 10, 2014) she said that she does not want to live with her parents.

“We cannot file a case because, according to the law, every adult Pakistani has the right to live wherever he or she wants to live,” said the officer.

Distraught man claims daughter being ‘held’ in Jamia Hafsa - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

He should lunch an FIR against the admin of jamia hafza & should let police discover his daughter ?

Mr same will happen TTP is on death bed this move will give them life and massive boost let him talk thrash he is damaging himself

Please come out of fear , presence of TTp in Islamabad is much less & the national thinking is against them , if they ever try to repeat the lal masjid part 2 I am sure , they will be more isolated then before cause this time there is no dictator & no one to feed media houses for them ?

 

[Saifullah Sani]

He should lunch an FIR against the admin of jamia hafza & should let police discover his daughter ?


Please come out of fear , presence of TTp in Islamabad is much less & the national thinking is against them , if they ever try to repeat the lal masjid part 2 I am sure , they will be more isolated then before cause this time there is no dictator & no one to feed media houses for them ?

In the statement she recorded under section 164 before Magistrate Kamran Cheema (on July 10, 2014) she said that she does not want to live with her parents.

 

[Pakistani E]

you mean terrorist vs terrorist

MQM is an elected representative of millions of Pakistanis. No comparison between MQM and lal Masjid, don't be childish.

Altaf bhai might have paladin bhai log, but don't have suicide bombers

Have you heard of a group of MQM workers who write their allegiance to MQM in blood? MQM has very good combat experience, they fought the army too. The reason they don't do suicide bombings is because Altaf Bhai won't allow it. They have just as dedicated karkuns as TTP etc. Anyway, I really hope that any action is taken by the Army and not individual civilians.

Mr same will happen TTP is on death bed this move will give them life and massive boost let him talk thrash he is damaging himself

Arey Bhai, Tum Momin ho. Maut se kyun derte ho. Fighting TTP is the real Jihad. Ab lerna hai to dil laga ke laro.

 

[xyxmt]

Who appointed musharaf as COAS?
Didn't sharifoo knew about kargill?
The rule India used in west Pakistan , if we used in kargill why it looks bad to you ?
What is the connection between kargill & the terrorist mullha of lal masjid?
TIND lover of noora,s its cold out there take a hot coffee or some thing which can generate some thing warm over the top of your balled tind ?
Cause working with that snow clearing machine & being paid 3 Canadian dollars per hour wont makes you knowledgable?

Chacha tere se baat kerna bhaince ke agey been bajana hay
wasey chacha cleaning snow for 3/hour is better than cleaning brothel

 

[airmarshal]

Imran khan should also come out from delusions, imagine if they open Taliban office for so called peace agreement . Good thing is that there are liberals and seculors too in PTI AND they will not allow Imran khan to impose his so called peace talk with Taliban dogs. No doubt there are taliban sympathizers in PMLN, BUT you can easily buy them(PMLN). History tells that They are more concerned about money and always available for sale. We need good marketing team so that they dont support banned organisations in future.

the talk thing was a policy, right or wrong. Imran was a first politician to offer some policy and articualte it too. Right or wrong, at least something came from from a politician other than actions from GHQ.

Th office offer was to make them accountable and visible. The objective of talk was not to accept TTP but to weaken them and to clear the confusion of the nation regarding TTP committing a holy jihad.

I m not Imran Khan spokesman but before criticizing, please begin to think objectively.

 

[Cheetah786]

All Pakistan has come to halt still you think its good and go arrest that Lal Masjid dumbo if Army Chief can make Nawaz lift Death Penalty he can tell him to arrest this Abdul Aziz but General Raheel knows what will happen next and he is not dumb like you to do that Mr

I am not sure whats more sad, your statement, or a think tank that thanked you for it. Since operation, started 100s of terrorist sent to hell and 1000s on the run. I call that success. People of pakistan out on streets protesting against mullahs another success.

If arresting Mullah burka, will bring out terrorist in droves, then its the security agencies job to be ready and kill on site. If the Good general wants to fight terrorism this has to be done. No ifs buts and whats.

 

[Amaa'n]

Mr same will happen TTP is on death bed this move will give them life and massive boost let him talk thrash he is damaging himself

zarvan bhai - itnay siyanay kab se ho gaye ho aap?

I am not sure whats more sad, your statement, or a think tank that thanked you for it. Since operation, started 100s of terrorist sent to hell and 1000s on the run. I call that success. People of pakistan out on streets protesting against mullahs another success.

If arresting Mullah burka, will bring out terrorist in droves, then its the security agencies job to be ready and kill on site. If the Good general wants to fight terrorism this has to be done. No ifs buts and whats.

we have been successful and in the coming weeks , you will be the witness of the results - the thing about catching a mullah like aziz is that there will be a civil war - there will be rallies in his support - and some of them might have links with your current set up in Islamabad -
Lets isolate this mullah, clean off the streets with scums like sleeper cells, rootout the support with in the departments and then we can go for mullahs like this --- Believe me you will be shocked to see the type of sympathy this mullah holds in our general public ---

BTW one example for you to quote here is - this mullah was provided with armed guards and then he had his own personal armed guards - they parade on the same street leading to Lal Masjid, 1 land cruiser and 2 prado in his motorade and a house provided by ...... in Bahria Town, so and hes funded by ........

 

[Zarvan]

zarvan bhai - itnay siyanay kab se ho gaye ho aap?


we have been successful and in the coming weeks , you will be the witness of the results - the thing about catching a mullah like aziz is that there will be a civil war - there will be rallies in his support - and some of them might have links with your current set up in Islamabad -
Lets isolate this mullah, clean off the streets with scums like sleeper cells, rootout the support with in the departments and then we can go for mullahs like this --- Believe me you will be shocked to see the type of sympathy this mullah holds in our general public ---

BTW one example for you to quote here is - this mullah was provided with armed guards and then he had his own personal armed guards - they parade on the same street leading to Lal Masjid, 1 land cruiser and 2 prado in his motorade and a house provided by ...... in Bahria Town, so and hes funded by ........

I was always like this

 

[batmannow]

Chacha tere se baat kerna bhaince ke agey been bajana hay
wasey chacha cleaning snow for 3/hour is better than cleaning brothel

Apney kam tey laga reh ?
Thand nal sir kam nahio karda tera?lol

zarvan bhai - itnay siyanay kab se ho gaye ho aap?


we have been successful and in the coming weeks , you will be the witness of the results - the thing about catching a mullah like aziz is that there will be a civil war - there will be rallies in his support - and some of them might have links with your current set up in Islamabad -
Lets isolate this mullah, clean off the streets with scums like sleeper cells, rootout the support with in the departments and then we can go for mullahs like this --- Believe me you will be shocked to see the type of sympathy this mullah holds in our general public ---

BTW one example for you to quote here is - this mullah was provided with armed guards and then he had his own personal armed guards - they parade on the same street leading to Lal Masjid, 1 land cruiser and 2 prado in his motorade and a house provided by ...... in Bahria Town, so and hes funded by ........

That's what I call my hope , from my young bloods?

 

[xyxmt]

Apney kam tey laga reh ?
Thand nal sir kam nahio karda tera?lol

chal chacha safaid farsh saaf ker lol

 

[batmannow]

chal chacha safaid farsh saaf ker lol

Tu ganjey di tind saaf kar ?lol
Canada jaa kar wi kam nahio chadya tu?

 

[SipahSalar]

Why isn't our media covering this?

 

[Mujahid Memon]

MQM is an elected representative of millions of Pakistanis. No comparison between MQM and lal Masjid, don't be childish.

sorry mate, I didn't knew u dont know the difference bw dhandli and election