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Lithuania will make a decision on what type of new 8x8 infantry fighting vehicle (IFV) it will purchase at the end of November, the Lithuanian Ministry of Defence (MoD) said on 29 October.

The MoD stated that it had hoped to have selected a vehicle by now, but had recently received two government proposals (from the United States and Poland) and needed additional time to evaluate them.

The new 8x8 will replace the country's aging M113 tracked armoured personnel carriers. These will initially be used to equip two battalions of the country's 'Iron Wolf' mechanised infantry brigade, for which 60-72 IFVs will be required - although the country may later buy a second batch of vehicles.

The MoD also revealed the various bidders for the requirement. In addition to the two government-to-government (G2G) proposals, there are 10 bidding companies: Patria's AMV fitted with the UT 30 Mk 2 turret; the ARTEC Boxer fitted with the RCT 30 or Lance 30 turret; the Iveco Superav fitted with the UT 30 Mk2 turret; the Nexter VBCI with the T25 or T40 turret; the General Dynamics Land Systems LAV II with the Kongsberg MCT30 turret; the Otokar Arma and Mizrak-30 turret; and the FNSS Pars with the E30 turret. Meanwhile, Elbit has separately bid its UT 30 Mk1 and Mk2 turrets, while Lockheed Martin UK has offered its 40 CTAS turret.

In July the MoD's Materiel Acquisition Commission recommended the Boxer for the requirement, although the final decision will be made by Lithuania's State Defence Council - comprising Lithuania's President, Defence Minister, Chief of Defence and the speaker of the Lithuanian Parliament.


Lithuania closes in on IFV selection - IHS Jane's 360
 
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Poland or the US will win the tender.My guess is that it will be Poland,or at least that should be the logical outcome.
 
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Poland or the US will win the tender.My guess is that it will be Poland,or at least that should be the logical outcome.

They would most likely choose the Boxer as they firstly decided. Maybe the Lithuania's State Defence Council would choose another vehicle,the most affordable.
 
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They would most likely choose the Boxer as they firstly decided. Maybe the Lithuania's State Defence Council would choose another vehicle,the most affordable.


I see the Boxer as a irational decision.It's more expensive than the Patria while offering little extra capability and Lithuania must have commonality in defence gear with Poland as the eventual threat they're facing is a common one and these countries are close neighbours.
 
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I see the Boxer as a irational decision.It's more expensive than the Patria while offering little extra capability and Lithuania must have commonality in defence gear with Poland as the eventual threat they're facing is a common one and these countries are close neighbours.

What Poland could offer to Lithuania ? The most modern IFV of Poland is the Rosomak,which is in itself a licensed variant of the Patria.... Or is there any other vehicle ?
 
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What Poland could offer to Lithuania ? The most modern IFV of Poland is the Rosomak,which is in itself a licensed variant of the Patria.... Or is there any other vehicle ?


Nope...you're right,it's a licensed Patria.
 
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Yes...but in my opinion they were milked.7.1 million $ for an wheeled IFV ? spares,weapons or not,this is to much....you get a T90 at 5-6 millions for God's sake !

Politics, Lithuania even if they select Boxer IFV it´s almost an Wheeled APC, an Old T-55 can make it useless.

They need more the Help from USA against Russia as we can figure it out ^^

You cannot scare an Giant without a Gian.

BTW What about the Laser Saur 2 ? Any news ?

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Politics, Lithuania even if they select Boxer IFV it´s almost an Wheeled APC, an Old T-55 can make it useless.

They need more the Help from USA against Russia as we can figure it out ^^

You cannot scare an Giant without a Gian.

BTW What about the Laser Samur 2 ? Any news ?

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They'll still working on it.This is Romania and it's not like there's n emergency like a big agressive neighbour anexing territories next to us...(yes,i'm sarcastic)
 
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The amount of this deal is very high for only 84 units ! That's more than the entire Lithuania's defence budget of a whole year.
If you want a comparison,Poland bought another batch of 200 Rosomak for (according to some sources) 630 millions of $.
Another comparison,Sweden bought 113 Patria for SEK ~2.5 billion,which is something like 280 millions of $.

Politics has won.

Thank you.
 
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