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MIRAMSHAH: As the government team prepares for another meeting with the Tehreek-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP), many of the foreign militants based in and around North Waziristan feel they are facing an uncertain future and are not only seeking assurances from their hosts but are also weighing options for moving out to others places, like Afghanistan and Syria, to continue their ‘jihad’.

This emerged during a series of interviews conducted by this corespondent with scores of foreign militants, mainly around North Waziristan, on getting exclusive access to various groups and to some of the most wanted fugitives in the country.

“Most of us do not think that the talks would succeed. But if there is give and take from both sides then we fear the government would try to isolate us. Our hosts did take us into confidence before the talks started, but we feel the government would put them in a tight spot and their options may be limited,” said Azzaam, a senior member of the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan (IMU).

But some of the foreign militants also see the developments as an opportunity.

“Jihad is not restricted to a single land. We have the flexibility to move around. At the moment most brothers realise that one of the noblest jihadi fronts is Syria,” said Sheikh Abdul Salam, a Saudi national based here.

“Iran is one of the belligerents in the blessed land of Syria and it is right next to Pakistan,” he said, while arguing about the “importance” of dragging Iran into a direct confrontation with Pakistan.

Another Arab fighter in Mir Ali Bazaar said he was interested in moving to Syria, but added that he had been unable to make arrangements to shift along with his large family.

“My mother’s condition makes it difficult for me to pursue the difficult land route. Perhaps as part of the talks, if the government of Pakistan provides us with a safe passage then a number of people in a situation similar to mine could fly out,” he said.

At the same time, a member of the TTP shura claimed that a large number of foreign fighters had already left. “I can tell you that 8,000 mujahideen, mostly Arabs, Chechens and Uzbeks, have shifted to Syria,” he said.

When cross-questioned about the big figure, he asserted that he was speaking with knowledge and authority. He pointed out that almost all of them had taken the land route while sneaking through Iran where a number of them have been arrested.

It’s difficult to verify this figure, and it is not clear how many more foreign militants are still holed up in North Waziristan and other parts of the tribal territory.

When asked about the issue of foreign fighters, TTP spokesman Shahidullah Shahid was reluctant to talk on the subject. “We are holding talks with the government with all sincerity and we hope for a positive outcome that is in the interest of Islam and Pakistan,” he said.

While Afghanistan would seem as the more convenient place to shift, many of the foreign fighters have their sight on Syria. “There are many sayings of the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) about the virtues of Syria, so naturally many of the mujahideen look that way,” said Khalid Saif al-Muhajir, TTP’s head of media.

But the Saudi national, Sheikh Abdul Salam, points out another aspect. “It is not about which land is easy for us to relocate to. You have to look at it strategically. The next big fight across many Muslim lands would be between us and the Rawafidh,” he said, using a pejorative term to describe Shias.

In the meantime, for those foreign fighters choosing to stay in Pakistan, there is help on offer from another front – the staunchly sectarian Lashkar-i-i-Jhangvi. “All these people have left their lands for jihad. We cannot betray them. If the government tries to make things difficult for these mujahideen then they will find us standing by them,” said a member of the Lashkar-i-Jhangvi who features on the list of most wanted militants in Pakistan.
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Made In Pakistan brand is pretty famous when it comes to hard core training . All these Uzbeks, Chechens are coming all the way to pakistan .
 
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TTP moving their skilled resources to some other places due to slow down in Pakistan. I am sure market in Pakistan will get stable soon. They are the only one outsourcing it world wide.
 
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These 8000 assholes should be pulverized and sent to hell to continue their Jihad there. Such a large number of foreigners are in Pakistan and the government does not know about it......such a shame.
 
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At least Syria will mercilessly kill these scumbags and they'll be coming back in body bags (if at all). Good riddance. If they don't get killed in Pakistan at least they can get killed in another country.
 
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So currently we are producing quality terrorists and exporting to rest of the world. I am so proud. :pakistan:
 
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Hope these 8000 pigs would be slaughtered by Syrian army. If alive, they will back to Pakistan only so better they die.
 
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These 8000 assholes should be pulverized and sent to hell to continue their Jihad there. Such a large number of foreigners are in Pakistan and the government does not know about it......such a shame.
Maybe ISI is also to be blamed? :what:
 
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So currently we are producing quality terrorists and exporting to rest of the world. I am so proud. :pakistan:

Why are you proud of TTP?

My question, is how do 8000 come out of Russia? but one thing is sure..... once they are in Iran or Afghanistan, there transit from Iran, Iraq would not be a problem.
 
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Maybe ISI is also to be blamed? :what:

You do realize that army which by the way includes ISI is not in favour of dialogue and it is only the political elites which want to continue with this idiocy. Ultimately its the government who has to order for the military to take action otherwise the army and the ISI will again be blamed for bypassing the civilian government.
 
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Maybe ISI is also to be blamed? :what:

Let me know when you get a negative.

Ultimately its the government who has to order for the military to take action

Govt. has already entrusted the matter of TTP to APC committee, this means every single Pakistani is represented, via one or other party.
I don't see reason to blame govt. alone, on this issue, any more.
As far army is concerned, actions are not dependent on over night decisions of politicians.
There has to be credible information of TTP location, and to get this info. it require years of intelligence..... this is why Indians and sect. of 35% are not happy with ISI, all the time.
 
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You do realize that army which by the way includes ISI is not in favour of dialogue and it is only the political elites which want to continue with this idiocy. Ultimately its the government who has to order for the military to take action otherwise the army and the ISI will again be blamed for bypassing the civilian government.
Negotiations are happening now. But these fighters are having their presence from a long time. Isnt it the responsibility of the intel agencies to counter it or atleast inform the government so that the government would ask the respective countries to keep their house in order?
 
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A$$ pulled numbers.

TTP doesnt has this much strength and that too of foriegn fighters.

Do we have choice, other than believing TTP?

While, i personally doubt that people could be as stupid, as they show it here!
 
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