27 Feb 19: PAF shot down two Indian aircrafts inside Pakistani airspace: DG ISPR

[LegitimateIdiot]

Let me be clear here, give me link where you have seen a country sharing enemeis radar signature, what you are asking is to divulge secret what do you think Pakistan will do after seeing those electronic signatures?



All those proof of sales of AIM available in public domain are false? Do you think people are gullible like you?




See man, Pakistan has long history of disowing there own, for years they disowned there own soldiers who dies during Kargil, they disonwed the claim that Osama was in pakistan.

Do you really think anyone will trust what your ispr says? For good sake they changed there statements zillion times over period of a day.

Last, if it was another Indian jet, pictures would been out by now, we don't hide we honour.

9/11 was an inside job

 

[Asian.Century]

Pakistan took revenge of the murdered crow only living thing at Balakot IAF payload drop by shooting downing two Indian aircrafts.

Our Crows are so precious for us.

 

[Dubious]

Dear god! Where has the discussion reached thus far? What is the conclusion?

Pakistan took revenge of the murdered crow only living thing at Balakot IAF payload drop by shooting downing two Indian aircrafts.

Our Crows are so precious for us.

PLUS trees....The murdered trees were part of our ecosystem...2 mins of silence for the 15 trees that took shahadah

 

[Dubious]

we r going to the next level to get justice for our trees
Pakistan to lodge U.N. complaint against India for 'eco-terrorism' forest bombing
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...g-idUSKCN1QI4FX?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews

The United Nations states that “destruction of the environment, not justified by military necessity and carried out wantonly, is clearly contrary to existing international law”, according to the U.N. General Assembly resolution 47/37.

Pakistan to lodge U.N. complaint against India for 'eco-terrorism' forest bombing

ISLAMABAD (Reuters) - Pakistan plans to lodge a complaint against India at the United Nations, accusing it of “eco-terrorism” over air strikes that damaged pine trees and brought the nuclear-armed nations to blows, a government minister said on Friday.

India and Pakistan are amidst their biggest stand-off in many years, with the United States and other global powers mediating to de-escalate tensions between arch-foes who have fought three wars since their independence from British colonial rule in 1947.

Indian warplanes on Tuesday bombed a hilly forest area near the northern Pakistani town of Balakot, about 40 km (25 miles) from India’s border in the Himalayan region of Kashmir. New Delhi said it had destroyed a militant training camp and killed hundreds of “terrorists”.


Pakistan denied there were any such camps in the area and locals said only one elderly villager was hurt.

Climate Change Minister Malik Amin Aslam said Indian jets bombed a “forest reserve” and the government was undertaking an environmental impact assessment, which will be the basis a complaint at the United Nations and other forums.

“What happened over there is environmental terrorism,” Aslam told Reuters, adding that dozens of pine trees had been felled. “There has been serious environmental damage.”


Two Reuters reporters who visited the site of the bombings, where four large craters could be seen, said up to 15 pine trees had been brought down by the blasts. Villagers dismissed Indian claims that hundreds of militants were killed.

The United Nations states that “destruction of the environment, not justified by military necessity and carried out wantonly, is clearly contrary to existing international law”, according to the U.N. General Assembly resolution 47/37.

India and Pakistan are also engaged in a diplomatic tussle, with New Delhi vowing to isolate Pakistan over its alleged links to militant groups. Islamabad is currently putting pressure on the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) to uninvite India’s foreign minister from their next meeting.

Reporting by Drazen Jorgic; Editing by Nick Macfie

Our Standards:The Thomson Reuters Trust Principles.

@Dubious We launched complaint against India for our trees destroyed.

Well played once again! THIS is what govts should do...NIT pick anything that can be thrown at them instead of anger and immature tantrums...that is what india throws and again we are not indians and we need not "learn" nor "follow" their expertise!

 

[Agha Sher]

Your own military admitted to sending Sukhois.

A twin-seater clearly went down, and it can't be an F-16 since you have no pilot or wreckage to display to us, so the only option left is a Su-30MKI.

However, Pakistan does not have any wreckage or pilot of the Su-30. The 2nd aircraft and pilot remains a mystery.

 

[The Accountant]

Pakistan to lodge U.N. complaint against India for 'eco-terrorism' forest bombing

ISLAMABAD (Reuters) - Pakistan plans to lodge a complaint against India at the United Nations, accusing it of “eco-terrorism” over air strikes that damaged pine trees and brought the nuclear-armed nations to blows, a government minister said on Friday.

India and Pakistan are amidst their biggest stand-off in many years, with the United States and other global powers mediating to de-escalate tensions between arch-foes who have fought three wars since their independence from British colonial rule in 1947.

Indian warplanes on Tuesday bombed a hilly forest area near the northern Pakistani town of Balakot, about 40 km (25 miles) from India’s border in the Himalayan region of Kashmir. New Delhi said it had destroyed a militant training camp and killed hundreds of “terrorists”.


Pakistan denied there were any such camps in the area and locals said only one elderly villager was hurt.

Climate Change Minister Malik Amin Aslam said Indian jets bombed a “forest reserve” and the government was undertaking an environmental impact assessment, which will be the basis a complaint at the United Nations and other forums.

“What happened over there is environmental terrorism,” Aslam told Reuters, adding that dozens of pine trees had been felled. “There has been serious environmental damage.”


Two Reuters reporters who visited the site of the bombings, where four large craters could be seen, said up to 15 pine trees had been brought down by the blasts. Villagers dismissed Indian claims that hundreds of militants were killed.

The United Nations states that “destruction of the environment, not justified by military necessity and carried out wantonly, is clearly contrary to existing international law”, according to the U.N. General Assembly resolution 47/37.

India and Pakistan are also engaged in a diplomatic tussle, with New Delhi vowing to isolate Pakistan over its alleged links to militant groups. Islamabad is currently putting pressure on the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) to uninvite India’s foreign minister from their next meeting.

Reporting by Drazen Jorgic; Editing by Nick Macfie

Our Standards:The Thomson Reuters Trust Principles.

@Dubious We launched complaint against India for our trees destroyed.

Awsome trolling ...

 

[Hamza913]

However, Pakistan does not have any wreckage or pilot of the Su-30. The 2nd aircraft and pilot remains a mystery.

It's a dual seater bro, based on the videos available and eyewitnesses. There's only one dual seater India operates in that area, the Su-30MKI which they also admit to using to intercept PAF aircraft that violated Indian airspace.

 

[Agha Sher]

It's a dual seater bro, based on the videos available and eyewitnesses. There's only one dual seater India operates in that area, the Su-30MKI which they also admit to using to intercept PAF aircraft that violated Indian airspace.

Yes bro, however, the videos of the burning aircraft clearly resembles a Mi-17 and not a Su-30. I have tried to identify a Su-30 in the many videos available, but they all point towards a Mi-17. Also eyewitnesses claim 2 parachutes which matches both Su-30 and F-16D, so we can't deduct anything from that.

 

[Hamza913]

Yes bro, however, the videos of the burning aircraft clearly resembles a Mi-17 and not a Su-30. I have tried to identify a Su-30 in the many videos available, but they all point towards a Mi-17. Also eyewitnesses claim 2 parachutes which matches both Su-30 and F-16D, so we can't deduct anything from that.

Two parachutes came from one plane though, and if it was an F-16 India would waste no time exploiting that find.

And of course, the US would be up in arms over their aircraft being used in offensive raids, and they regulate these aircraft very heavily too so Pakistan by-passing them is unlikely.

 

[Asian.Century]

Yes bro, however, the videos of the burning aircraft clearly resembles a Mi-17 and not a Su-30. I have tried to identify a Su-30 in the many videos available, but they all point towards a Mi-17. Also eyewitnesses claim 2 parachutes which matches both Su-30 and F-16D, so we can't deduct anything from that.

THIS IS CRASH SITE #1 in IOK as per RT (notice much smaller body of water unlike first vid): Su30 MKI

Check this crash site #2 in IOK of Mi-17 Heli:

 

[Bilal Khan 777]

There were some claims that there are no two seater Mig-21s. Well, here is one.

 

[Pak-Canuck]

THIS IS CRASH SITE #1 in IOK as per RT (notice much smaller body of water unlike first vid): Su30 MKI

Check this crash site #2 in IOK of Mi-17 Heli:

EXACTLY what I am saying, on a lot of Indian news clips they are COMBINING these two footages as showing as one when clearly they are two different crash sites!

 

[ptldM3]

Your own military admitted to sending Sukhois.

A twin-seater clearly went down, and it can't be an F-16 since you have no pilot or wreckage to display to us, so the only option left is a Su-30MKI.

Don't pander conspiracies there is zero evidence of an SU-30 going down or even being in the emodiate area. The Mig-21 broke formation and got shot down after going deep into Pakistani controled Kashmir, there was reports that his wingman was another Mig-21 but he returned safely. Both Pakistani and India reports are laughable, both have been caught blatantly lying. The stupidity is kept alive on this forum.

Eye witnesses claimed seeing several parachutes but it was over Pakistan controlled territory. If Pakistan had SU-30 wreckage they would parade it.


One thing is 100% certain, a Mig-21 was shot down and the pilot taken POW. Many reported seeing multiple parachutes but it was over Pakistani controled territory. Make what you will of it, but people claiming it is an SU-30 is not only irrational but doesn't make logical sense nor is it supported by evidence.

First, i am still waiting for that evidence of Uri strike
Second, finding BVRAAM dont means a F-16 was shot down. Specially when the AIM is controversial itself (same batch number issue to Taiwan) ...

here;
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/myth...ked-indian-lies-exposed.604973/#post-11227714

No f-16 was used in the strikes. Bring the evidence if was used. Showing a fake piece of trash and calling it a piece of AMRAAM will get you nowhere.

Lets stick to fact and evidence. The missile India recovered was real, it was tagged with serial numbers and Pakistan used the same batch as Taiwan, this is easily verifiable.


http://thedrive.com/the-war-zone/26...issiles-were-used-by-pakistan-in-aerial-brawl


"Some claimed that the contract number shown on the missile fragment identified it as one shipped to Taiwan, suggesting the evidence was fabricated. However, this contract was actually a larger U.S. Foreign Military Sales deal that did involve deliveries to Pakistan."




http://archive.defense.gov/Contracts/Contract.aspx?ContractID=3384

 

[Jango]

THIS IS CRASH SITE #1 in IOK as per RT (notice much smaller body of water unlike first vid): Su30 MKI

Check this crash site #2 in IOK of Mi-17 Heli:

Both are of the same Mi-17.

You can clearly see the main rotor blade, the rear cargo ramp section, and a little part of the tail boom.

Let's not stoop as low as the Indian side.

 

[Asian.Century]

There were some claims that there are no two seater Mig-21s. Well, here is one.View attachment 543390

Mig 21 dual seater only a handful in number are trainer jets.

It is now almost assuring that Su 30 MKI or/ Mig 29 dual seater was the second jet shot down.