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After Mehsa Amini's controversial death, the protests that started on the streets have turned into large -scale mass actions. Many international media are mentioning events as breaking news.

There are very distressing footages on Twitter and other social media sites. Vehicles are overturning, people are injuring.

What's going on guys?

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There are far more worse human rights violations (fascism) happening in Pakistan, on top of worst flooding in decades. Death toll reached 1500+

Also, political opponents tortured, harassed, media silenced, false terrorism charges on ex-PM, journalists tortured, internet cut offs, 35,000 tear gas shells fired on peaceful protestors. Did western media cover it? No.

They only cover it when it fits their agenda. Right now, Iran is on their crosshairs as enemy, so they will run every news bit that weakens Iran as a state.
 
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ill be honest here
I don't care and I feel this is what the world at large is feeling too
 
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This seems to be way more serious than may 2022. @Stryker1982 You live in Tehran right? Whats going on there? They also slowed down the internet apparently so you might not respond.
 
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Hopefully the protests will grow and increase in strength. Those wannabe Arab Mullah’s need a taste of their own medicine. 1980-1988 is a bit long ago.

I hope regional powers and world powers can give them a taste of freedom, in any case whatever happens is positive news.
 
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Iranian government may be autocratic but, Iran is a stable country. This protest will die...

It depends on the leadership, are they cracking or not ? See what happen in Myanmar and Egypt, many people from many background went to the street and it doesnt change the regime.

Compare with Indonesia in 1997-1998, only university students who were protesting on the street, but media and intellectuals support the movement. Only after the parliament open the gate of parliament building to the students that later being occupied by students and then the 14 important ministers resigning, then Soeharto finally resign.

Although it has created riots for several days after 4 university students shoot death by security officers, around a week after that, Soeharto resign.

If the elites dont change, the country will not change
 
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Hopefully the protests will grow and increase in strength. Those wannabe Arab Mullah’s need a taste of their own medicine. 1980-1988 is a bit long ago.

I hope regional powers and world powers can give them a taste of freedom, in any case whatever happens is positive news.
By regional powers you mean Saudis, Bahrain, Qatar and the UAE with no constitution or ballot boxes?
 
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You may or may not like Iran; however, the death of Mehsa Amini did not occur as a result of police torture as propagated by US social media and outlets. If you look at the security cam footages, Amini probably suffered a heart attack while attending public education application and could not be saved despite the intervention at the hospital. It was Amini's death that ignited and symbolized events.

fun note: At TR, we had a similar experience in 2013. Image of girl in red scarf standing fearlessly against police barricade. This girl died in Syria while fighting for a terrorist organization under the protection of the USA, just after a few years.
 
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By regional powers you mean Saudis, Bahrain, Qatar and the UAE with no constitution or ballot boxes?

All of those countries have constitutions. More importantly all of those countries are lightyears ahead of Iran in terms of HDI index, infrastructure, law and order, economy, connectivity with the outside world, living standards, prosperity, support for their rulers etc.

Arabs, in case you missed it, had a so-called "Arab Spring" 10 years ago that impacted almost every Arab country. Arabs have a history of removing leaders that they don't like.

Why should people of the GCC be any different in this regard? They are richer and more connected to the outside world (more students abroad per capita than anyone in the region by far) and could easily protest/make revolutions if they were genuinely unsatisfied with their lives and leaders.

But they don't. You know why? Because they live better than 99% of all the world's population. Which is also why GCC is one of the main migrant/immigrant hubs on the entire planet, including attracting some of the largest Iranian diaspora in the world.

And locals in the GCC have their own ancient systems where the people directly consult/talk with their leaders through Majlis, elders, people of power etc. The idea that Western democracy is the only solution is ridiculous. Compare "dictatorship" China with "democracy" India.

Ironically Kuwait, which has its own democratically elected parliament, democratically elected politicians etc., is the most ineffective and worst performing GCC nation. Food for thought.

And please don't start this joke of Iran being a democracy because Iranians can vote every 4 years on 2-3 state-appointed candidates. I would take it seriously if some Dane or Scandinavian person was preaching about their genuinely democratic systems. Which were not developed overnight but mostly in a bloody fashion.

Not to mention that the real ruler of Iran (Khamenei - head of state too) has been ruling the country for almost 40 years.

Everything has its time, whenever the need for a Western-style democracy occurs in the GCC, it will eventually be implemented if that is what the majority will want. You cannot oppress the will of the nation/people forever.

But as of now vast majority of locals in the GCC support their leaders and systems, they cannot afford to do anything else considering how well they live compared to everyone else in the region.


These 5000 people (out of 86 million Iranian population) are the biggest threat that one can imagine, Iranian leaders know this is the end...

Seems that Iran is the only country where protests every 1-2 years with 100's of casualties is seen as a "normal" occurrence. I wonder why such protests never occur in for example GCC states? Can you explain?
 
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