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1965 air combat was decisive victory for PAF over much larger IAF.
Below is head on comparison of each air craft that took part in 65 war.


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so we only had starfighter and saber against four different IAF aircrafts Gnat,MiG 21, mysere and Hawker

MiG 21s out-matched Sabres
It was mostly the Sabres as we only had about a dozen Star fighters.
Although unknown at the time, the very first encounter between the two air forces in which four Indian Vampire fighter/bombers were shot down, resulted in the IAF strength getting reduced by about 30% as it decided to withdraw all the Vampires and Ouragan aircraft from combat service.
 
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Correct.
Mig21 was most superior air craft in 65 war ..........

And when did India Inducted MIG-21. Can you comment on the capability of the MIG-21 FL at that time, and was it absorbed completely, and all Indian pilots were familar with this bird ?
 
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This Crazy Soviet Pilot Flew a MiG 17 Under A Bridge!
Aug 28, 2016 Nikola Budanovic

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In 1965 an incredible stunt was pulled by a Soviet pilot named Valentin Privalov, who managed to fly his MiG 17 jet fighter under a bridge on the Ob River in Western Siberia. The event was described by witnesses who claim this actually happened, even though the credibility of the photograph depicting the flight has often been debated for being edited.

Nevertheless, the story remains. It was a sunny day, on 4th of June 1965, when Privalov flew under the central span of the Communal Bridge in Novosibirsk. The riverbanks were filled with people on vacation and officers from the nearby base, strolling and enjoying the sunshine. All of a sudden, a silver jet in the sky was performing the acrobatic. Everyone was amazed. It was an act of magnificent skill since the jet was never before seen performing a flight with such accuracy.

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Restored MiG-17 in the markings of the Polish Air Force. By Stuart Seeger from College Station, Texas, USA / Wikipedia / CC BY-SA 2.0
It was reported that Privalov did this on his own initiative, and without any orders whatsoever. The hotshot pilot wanted to pull this stunt for personal glory and to exhibit his flying skills. The crowd gathered on the bridge started to applaud spontaneously, but Privalov’s superiors weren’t so happy. He got a suspension. This almost cost him his career in the Soviet Air Force. He was threatened with disciplinary action, but the Minister of Defense himself, Marshall Rodion Malinovsky, saw the stunt as an advertisement of the military. The people were in awe. The word soon spread all over the USSR, and it soon evolved into a legend.


Privalov was sent to the elite Moscow squadron stationed at the Kubinka military airfield. The airfield is home to the aerobatic team “Swifts” and “Russian Knights,” and Privalov joined their ranks.

The photograph started circling the internet recently. It found its way through various Russian-language forums to worldwide attention. The origin of the photo is disputable, but it seems that the event depicted on it isn’t. Various reports confirmed that Privalov flew under the Communal Bridge, which is 120 meters wide between its pillars and 30 meters high. He was flying approximately 700 miles per hour.

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An article mentioning Privalov’s stunt in the American press. Public Domain.
Some claim that the photo was made only to illustrate the event, for it happened without prior warning; thus it was impossible to document it. It was published in Soviet newspapers and the stunt even echoed in the American press, when it was mentioned an article dating from 27th of August, 1965. The article included three weird stories all taking place in the Soviet Union: “a drunk who stole a streetcar,” “an aircraft mechanic who went on a joyride up and down runways in an Ilyushin 4 transport,” and “a stunt flier who flew under bridges.”


Valentin Privalov, “a stunt flier who flew under bridges” pursued a lavish and successful career in the Soviet Air Force, and ended up as a deputy head of Russia’s civil aviation air traffic control center in Moscow. Little is known about his personal life, and whether or not the man is still alive, but his stunt remains unforgettable.
 
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Nice thread but can we also compare rest of the capabilities also like Navy fleet and Army tanks /Artillery . Weapons used by the two armies .
 
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so we only had starfighter and saber against four different IAF aircrafts Gnat,MiG 21, mysere and Hawker

MiG 21s out-matched Sabres

Which was more superior Starfighter or Mig 21 ?

Which Airforce was having A2A Missile Sidewinger ?

Do you think first-generation subsonic fighters like Vampire and Dassault Toofani as superior ?

Do you think IAF Mystere was capable of fighting with F 86 Sabre ?

What about 13 of IAF's 28 squadrons had been deployed in the eastern and central sectors to tackle the Chinese threat ? Does that means IAF was superior in number with PAF ?

What about the GNAT twin gun problem, which gets Jammed in several occasion ?

Do you think a single squardon of MIG-21 FL inducted, without night fighting capability was superior minus supersonic speed and no A2A missile ?
 
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Which was more superior Starfighter or Mig 21 ?

Which Airforce was having A2A Missile Sidewinger ?

Do you think first-generation subsonic fighters like Vampire and Dassault Toofani as superior ?

Do you think IAF Mystere was capable of fighting with F 86 Sabre ?

What about 13 of IAF's 28 squadrons had been deployed in the eastern and central sectors to tackle the Chinese threat ? Does that means IAF was superior in number with PAF ?

What about the GNAT twin gun problem, which gets Jammed in several occasion ?

Do you think a single squardon of MIG-21 FL inducted, without night fighting capability was superior minus supersonic speed and no A2A missile ?
no one remembers the circumstances
everyone remembers the conclusion

what could have happened is one thing what did happen is other
1971
what about Soviet naval blockade?
atlantique
what about its being unarmed?
Kargil?
what about the fact that that not only soldiers were outsourced but were being pursued to retreat by the top brass when Indians attacked their position but still were able to hold them off for a whole week?

no one remembers the consequence but conclusion
 
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what about Soviet naval blockade?

LOLZ, Lets start from here -- According to most of the Indian Members and many Pakistani members Soviet helped India, by deploying their subs in support to counter the U.S carrier group.

Here is the reality, -- It was a common drill by the Soviet Subs to chase the U.S/NATO carrier group.

atlantique

What ??

what about its being unarmed?

What about its flying close to border, where there was no Sea/ocean despite being Naval plane, and training ? Lol close to International border.

what about the fact that that not only soldiers were outsourced but were being pursued to retreat by the top brass when Indians attacked their position but still were able to hold them off for a whole week?

Simple fact is the same reason, why the SSG Comando and GEN Parvez musharaf was unable to dislodge the Indian solders from the fortified top position in Siachin aka the ones who is on top have the upper hand.
 
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LOLZ, Lets start from here -- According to most of the Indian Members and many Pakistani members Soviet helped India, by deploying their subs in support to counter the U.S carrier group.

Here is the reality, -- It was a common drill by the Soviet Subs to chase the U.S/NATO carrier group.



What ??



What about its flying close to border, where there was no Sea/ocean despite being Naval plane, and training ? Lol close to International border.



Simple fact is the same reason, why the SSG Comando and GEN Parvez musharaf was unable to dislodge the Indian solders from the fortified top position in Siachin aka the ones who is on top have the upper hand.
trying to divert thread?
US support was clearly neutralized by Soviet "drill"
atlantique?
you said close to border not into Indian airspace
curious for an Indian to claim this
but still you claimed
Kargil ?
again comes to circumstances

now do ur LOL go above and read my above post carefully as it clearly says

No one remembers the circumstances but conclusion
now if you dont have something nice to add and just want to ruin the thread
go poke someone else
dont quote me
 
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