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10 reasons why Pakistan should apologize to U.S.

Pakistan'sobsession with extracting an apology from the U.S. for airstrikes that accidentally killed 24 Pakistani troops last year seems dubious considering its own questionable commitment in the fight against terrorism.

Instead of jeopardizing U.S. efforts in South Asia, the Pakistani government should instead show courage by owning up to its destructive policies and apologize for its mishaps.

Here are at least 10 reasons why Pakistan owes the U.S. its deepest apology:

1. Osama bin Laden: On May 2, 2011, Osama bin Laden was killed near the Pakistan Military Academy, the equivalent of West Point. Pakistan was receiving about $18 billion from the U.S. to dismantle al-Qaida, while bin Laden was living comfortably with his wives and children in Abbottabad. Instead of apologizing for its complicity or incompetence, Pakistan vigorously protested violation of its sovereignty by theU.S. military operation that killed bin Laden. In fact, Pakistan's National Assembly offered religious prayers for bin Laden, and civilian protests across the country condemned the killing.

2. Doctor on trial: Last week, Dr. Shakil Afridi, a surgeon who helped the CIA locate bin Laden's whereabouts under the cover of a vaccination campaign, was convicted of treason and sentenced to 33 years in prison and fined about $3,500. So, let's get this straight. Pakistan publicly pledges to eliminate terrorism, yet punishes its citizens for helping to do so?

3. Embassy attack: On Sept. 13, 2011, well-equipped insurgents linked to the Pakistan-based Haqqani network, allied with al-Qaida and the Taliban, attacked the U.S. Embassy and NATO headquarters in Kabul, Afghanistan. Adm. Mike Mullen, the then-Joint Chiefs of Staff chairman, said the network is a "veritable arm" ofInter-Services Intelligence, the Pakistani spy agency. Instead of working to dismantle the terror network, Pakistan's army chief Gen. Ashfaq Kayani complained that his country was being "singled out," and that it was "neither fair nor productive." Hence, the network continues to undermine coalition efforts in Afghanistan.

4. Hostile land: While Pakistan claims to be an ally of the U.S., it has been indifferent to the kidnappings and violence carried out against Americans inside its territory. In 2002, Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl was kidnapped and beheaded in Karachi. In 2009 John Solecki, a U.S. national and U.N. official, was abducted in Baluchistan, while New York Times reporter David Rohde was held in Pakistan's tribal region for several months after being kidnapped in Afghanistan. And 70-year-old American aid worker Warren Weinstein is still missing after being kidnapped by al-Qaida in Lahore. Pakistan has not undertaken any demonstrable action to address this trend.

5. Mumbai attacks: At least 166 people, including five Americans, were killed in the 2008 terror attacks in Mumbai, India's largest city. The four-day killing spree was carried out by the Pakistan-based militant organization Lashkar-e-Taiba. On April 3, the U.S. announced a $10 million bounty for information leading to the arrest and conviction of Hafiz Mohammed Saeed, head of Lashkar-e-Taiba. Not only have Pakistani authorities rejected the charges against Saeed, but they continue to grant him absolute liberty to appear on television and propagate hate speech at public rallies.


6. Leaked identities: American officials strongly suspect that Inter-Services Intelligence was behind the 2010 leaking of information identifying CIA station chiefs in Pakistan.

7. Misuse of American weapons: In a February congressional hearing, Amnesty International</runtime:topic> and Human Rights Watch testified that Pakistan regularly misuses U.S. military assistance. U.S. weapons have allegedly been used to kill democratic political leaders and activists in Pakistan's southwestern province of Baluchistan.

8. Jihad factory: Pakistan's lack of action against the training camps of extremist groups makes it a perfect destination for aspiring jihadists.

9. Undercover agent: In 2011, the FBI revealed that Inter-Services Intelligence had illegally funded a lobbyist, Ghulam Nabi Fai, to influence U.S. policies in support of the Pakistani government's stance on the disputed territory of Kashmir. Though Fai has been sentenced to prison by a U.S. court, Pakistan never apologized for covertly funding Fai's activities.

10. Nuclear proliferation: Pakistan has never officially apologized for its nuclear proliferation. Abdul Qadeer Khan, the infamous Pakistani scientist, illegally supplied designs and centrifuge technology to Iran, Libya and North Korea. Though he publicly apologized, many believe Khan could not have acted without the tacit approval of segments of the Pakistani military.

Malik Siraj Akbar is an exiled Pakistani journalist based in Washington, D.C., and a fellow at the National Endowment for Democracy.
 
Malik Siraj Akbar is an exiled Pakistani journalist based in Washington, D.C., and a fellow at the National Endowment for Democracy.


lolz sitting in feet of masters and writing scrap no wonder they keep him there for lick US feet .:fie:
 
No wonder this dude is exiled.. Had he stayed in Pakistan, he probably would have met the fate of a lot of his journalist brothers whose tortured bodies keep turning up in all the weird places...

yes you are right hum ghadaars ko ziyada time nhi dety :guns:

he make here mess and kicked run away to USA no bashing from there .lolz

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1. Osama bin Laden: On May 2, 2011, Osama bin Laden was killed near the Pakistan Military Academy, the equivalent of West Point. Pakistan was receiving about $18 billion from the U.S. to dismantle al-Qaida, while bin Laden was living comfortably with his wives and children in Abbottabad. Instead of apologizing for its complicity or incompetence, Pakistan vigorously protested violation of its sovereignty by theU.S. military operation that killed bin Laden. In fact, Pakistan's National Assembly offered religious prayers for bin Laden, and civilian protests across the country condemned the killing.

How low can one get. Equating a screw up, of finding a guy to the actual killing of 24 people. The US declared they found a treasure trove of evidence does anything point to any single Pakistani institution?

Osama Op included killing people in Abottabad and blowing up bombs. Still the US was a violator of all standing norms.

How low, equating human lives with that. How low.

2. Doctor on trial: Last week, Dr. Shakil Afridi, a surgeon who helped the CIA locate bin Laden's whereabouts under the cover of a vaccination campaign, was convicted of treason and sentenced to 33 years in prison and fined about $3,500. So, let's get this straight. Pakistan publicly pledges to eliminate terrorism, yet punishes its citizens for helping to do so?

The America has to apologize to the Kashmiris first for jailing a Kashmir lobbyist - Fai - just because he had outside support, Americans should apologize to Israel for jailing Pollard.

We didn't jail him finding OBL, we jailed him for helping you - CIA. Even if he was helping them pluck flowers - his association with the CIA would be enough to try him for treason.

Embassy attack: On Sept. 13, 2011, well-equipped insurgents linked to the Pakistan-based Haqqani network, allied with al-Qaida and the Taliban, attacked the U.S. Embassy and NATO headquarters in Kabul, Afghanistan. Adm. Mike Mullen, the then-Joint Chiefs of Staff chairman, said the network is a "veritable arm" ofInter-Services Intelligence, the Pakistani spy agency. Instead of working to dismantle the terror network, Pakistan's army chief Gen. Ashfaq Kayani complained that his country was being "singled out," and that it was "neither fair nor productive." Hence, the network continues to undermine coalition efforts in Afghanistan.

Why did the Americans let the HN into Afghanistan? Just like America can't stop them with all its might from coming into Afghanistan, how can we stop them from leaving Pakistan?

Hostile land: While Pakistan claims to be an ally of the U.S., it has been indifferent to the kidnappings and violence carried out against Americans inside its territory.

Oh you are asking why Pakistanis don't like you? Would it have something to do with your kill a Pakistani a day campaign your CIA has initiated?

Mumbai attacks: At least 166 people, including five Americans, were killed in the 2008 terror attacks in Mumbai, India's largest city.

Not a single piece of evidence points to a Pakistani institution and we have our own trial going on, a trial which the US and the Indian authorities have blocked since they won't let due process take its toll.

Leaked identities: American officials strongly suspect that Inter-Services Intelligence was behind the 2010 leaking of information identifying CIA station chiefs in Pakistan.

Why does CIA have stations in Pakistan? There should be shoot to kill orders against CIA officers - They killed two random kids in Lahore.
. Misuse of American weapons: In a February congressional hearing, Amnesty International</runtime:topic> and Human Rights Watch testified that Pakistan regularly misuses U.S. military assistance. U.S. weapons have allegedly been used to kill democratic political leaders and activists in Pakistan's southwestern province of Baluchistan.

What a joke, we are not like the US that would fire missiles to kill insurgents - btw, BLA is subscribed as a terrorist organization in the UK.

Jihad factory: Pakistan's lack of action against the training camps of extremist groups makes it a perfect destination for aspiring jihadists.

Pakistan has done the most against training camps - Why is TTP operating out of Afghanistan?

Undercover agent: In 2011, the FBI revealed that Inter-Services Intelligence had illegally funded a lobbyist, Ghulam Nabi Fai,

America deserves rotten eggs for doing this to an old man who has done this openly for several decades and many others do this as well. He was only helping out Kashmiris.

Nuclear proliferation: Pakistan has never officially apologized for its nuclear proliferation. Abdul Qadeer Khan, the infamous Pakistani scientist, illegally supplied designs and centrifuge technology to Iran, Libya and North Korea.

Pakistan did not order it, no evidence points to a Pakistani institution - a scientist confessed to his crime and he was put under house arrest for it.
 
Malik Siraj Akbar is an exiled Pakistani journalist based in Washington, D.C., and a fellow at the National Endowment for Democracy.

BS, Pakistan does not exile Pakistanis. With such views he won't find a job in Pakistan at least so he is milking off the American economy.

But all the reasons mentioned in the OP are valid. Don't attack the Journalist for stating the obvious!!

Such morally bankrupt people will find ways to weasel out of apologizing killing 24 people.

It is obvious to weasels.
 
he is crying because he was chief executive of BALOCH HAL english news which is banned in pakistan and he was kicked sir .its his personal reason he is bashing .
 
Another anti Pakistani propoganda lead by another Indian...................these peoples don't have any thing other than to start threads against Pakistan.............i think they even don't sleep till they don['t think what will post next day in Defence forum against Pakistan..........lolz:P
 
How low can one get. Equating a screw up, of finding a guy to the actual killing of 24 people. The US declared they found a treasure trove of evidence does anything point to any single Pakistani institution?

Osama Op included killing people in Abottabad and blowing up bombs. Still the US was a violator of all standing norms.

How low, equating human lives with that. How low.
It may be a screw up for you but for most others it was a reality and America had to act on its own because a leak of information would have alerted the prime target. The target which has caused numerous deaths world wide. Nobody that i can see is equating it to 24 soldiers killed in Salala. The point is Pakistan keep asking apology for the incident but don't say a word of reasoning for hosting OBL.

The America has to apologize to the Kashmiris first for jailing a Kashmir lobbyist - Fai
Why should they for arresting a person funding terrorist organization/supporters?

We didn't jail him finding OBL, we jailed him for helping you - CIA. Even if he was helping them pluck flowers - his association with the CIA would be enough to try him for treason.

When OBL was hosted in the comfort of army establishment then CIA had no ways to get hold of what they wanted. That made you the other side in the war and in war lives are lost..

Why did the Americans let the HN into Afghanistan? Just like America can't stop them with all its might from coming into Afghanistan, how can we stop them from leaving Pakistan?
Question was not about letting HN into Afghanistan rather the support Pakistan extended to HN which is involved in terrorism against US forces.


Oh you are asking why Pakistanis don't like you? Would it have something to do with your kill a Pakistani a day campaign your CIA has initiated?
There would have been not a single Pakistani deaths had they stood true to their ally status.. Had there been a supportive PA and govt there was no need for American forces to got on its own? They realized that Pakistan is just pretending to help and thus act on their own.


Not a single piece of evidence points to a Pakistani institution and we have our own trial going on, a trial which the US and the Indian authorities have blocked since they won't let due process take its toll.

With out a single piece of evidence, Pakistan govt finally came out saying - there is enough proof to Nail Lakhvi.. Earlier they were denying that as well so do expect Pakistan to accept the reality anytime soon..

Why does CIA have stations in Pakistan? There should be shoot to kill orders against CIA officers - They killed two random kids in Lahore.
Because there is a realization on the US side that there is lack of cooperation from Pakistani side. Pakistan arrested the agent and released on their own so don't blame it on others.

What a joke, we are not like the US that would fire missiles to kill insurgents - btw, BLA is subscribed as a terrorist organization in the UK.

I heard Akbar khan bugti was killed in a missile attack on the cave he was hiding in.

Pakistan has done the most against training camps - Why is TTP operating out of Afghanistan?
There is support for Haqqani network from Pakistani side and even the Taliban so what the journo is saying is not all that wrong..



America deserves rotten eggs for doing this to an old man who has done this openly for several decades and many others do this as well. He was only helping out Kashmiris.

The old man deserved what he got. Helping terrorist organizations and accepting money illegally are not exactly one of the legal things to do..



Pakistan did not order it, no evidence points to a Pakistani institution - a scientist confessed to his crime and he was put under house arrest for it.
Pakistan has no evidence to anything yet all the non state actors get involved in as big a thing as Nuclear proliferation and sending trained armed terrorists to kill in other countries..

Such morally bankrupt people will find ways to weasel out of apologizing killing 24 people.

It is obvious to weasels.

The main reason for all this is, lack of trust on each other and for US the ones stated in the article are some of the reasons..
 
Such morally bankrupt people will find ways to weasel out of apologizing killing 24 people.

It is obvious to weasels.

The main reason for all this is, lack of trust on each other and for US the ones stated in the article are some of the reasons..
 
this guy in bettdr being paid in America for his anti-Pakistanism so he is there and doing his job perfectly.
 

1. Osama bin Laden: On May 2, 2011, Osama bin Laden was killed near the Pakistan Military Academy, the equivalent of West Point. Pakistan was receiving about $18 billion from the U.S. to dismantle al-Qaida, while bin Laden was living comfortably with his wives and children in Abbottabad. Instead of apologizing for its complicity or incompetence, Pakistan vigorously protested violation of its sovereignty by theU.S. military operation that killed bin Laden. In fact, Pakistan's National Assembly offered religious prayers for bin Laden, and civilian protests across the country condemned the killing.

Did the author asked how did Bin laden escape Tora Bora / Afghanistan and land in Pakistan. Why not first question the incompetence & complicity of the US forces & its allies who led OBL escape or deliberately escaping.

2. Doctor on trial: Last week, Dr. Shakil Afridi, a surgeon who helped the CIA locate bin Laden's whereabouts under the cover of a vaccination campaign, was convicted of treason and sentenced to 33 years in prison and fined about $3,500. So, let's get this straight. Pakistan publicly pledges to eliminate terrorism, yet punishes its citizens for helping to do so?

He acted with a non-state spy agency and ran fake vaccination program jeopardizing the lives of dozens of children or may be hundreds, thus his prison sentence should have been more severe. Plus its an internal matter of Pakistan, US should stay the hell out of our every internal matter. He is a Pakistani and not an American.

3. Embassy attack: On Sept. 13, 2011, well-equipped insurgents linked to the Pakistan-based Haqqani network, allied with al-Qaida and the Taliban, attacked the U.S. Embassy and NATO headquarters in Kabul, Afghanistan. Adm. Mike Mullen, the then-Joint Chiefs of Staff chairman, said the network is a "veritable arm" ofInter-Services Intelligence, the Pakistani spy agency. Instead of working to dismantle the terror network, Pakistan's army chief Gen. Ashfaq Kayani complained that his country was being "singled out," and that it was "neither fair nor productive." Hence, the network continues to undermine coalition efforts in Afghanistan.

Question again should be asked, how come these well armed militants traveled hundreds of miles inside Afghanistan with so much ANA, NATO & US forces manning the countryside & roads, especially leading into Kabul, reach Kabul, entered it, reached their destinations without a problem or being spotted, and did their attack. Is that also Pakistan's fault ?? Or the incompetence of US, ANA & NATO forces, or rather all of them were complicit in the act. If US, NATO with its might can't take on the Taliban, how do they think our rag tag army would be able to do so in NWA.

4. Hostile land: While Pakistan claims to be an ally of the U.S., it has been indifferent to the kidnappings and violence carried out against Americans inside its territory. In 2002, Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl was kidnapped and beheaded in Karachi. In 2009 John Solecki, a U.S. national and U.N. official, was abducted in Baluchistan, while New York Times reporter David Rohde was held in Pakistan's tribal region for several months after being kidnapped in Afghanistan. And 70-year-old American aid worker Warren Weinstein is still missing after being kidnapped by al-Qaida in Lahore. Pakistan has not undertaken any demonstrable action to address this trend.

When you kill hundreds of thousands of Muslims directly and indirectly, hate will come into people's hearts and such actions will happen. Do i remember the killing of a Sikh in US after 9/11 out of hate, as some American haters thought him to be a Muslim. So if the USofAs civilized nation members can kill a Sikh out of hate thinking he is a Muslim, why looking at us from a different angle.

5. Mumbai attacks: At least 166 people, including five Americans, were killed in the 2008 terror attacks in Mumbai, India's largest city. The four-day killing spree was carried out by the Pakistan-based militant organization Lashkar-e-Taiba. On April 3, the U.S. announced a $10 million bounty for information leading to the arrest and conviction of Hafiz Mohammed Saeed, head of Lashkar-e-Taiba. Not only have Pakistani authorities rejected the charges against Saeed, but they continue to grant him absolute liberty to appear on television and propagate hate speech at public rallies.

Bring Bush & Obama to court for having killed hundreds & thousands of Muslims, we will do the same.


6. Leaked identities: American officials strongly suspect that Inter-Services Intelligence was behind the 2010 leaking of information identifying CIA station chiefs in Pakistan.

Why getting angry, when the White House itself leaked the identity of one of its CIA agents who was the wife of an Ambassador, who exposed the US lies about yellow cake i believe. CIA was doing things in Pakistan which were not supposed to happen, best way to tell them was this, good for CIA he wasn't killed.

7. Misuse of American weapons: In a February congressional hearing, Amnesty International</runtime:topic> and Human Rights Watch testified that Pakistan regularly misuses U.S. military assistance. U.S. weapons have allegedly been used to kill democratic political leaders and activists in Pakistan's southwestern province of Baluchistan.

No US weapons have been used to kill these people except for militants hiding in the mountains. Political leaders & activists can easily be killed with a Chinese TT & AK-47, which we have in numbers and being used also.

8. Jihad factory: Pakistan's lack of action against the training camps of extremist groups makes it a perfect destination for aspiring jihadists.

Jihad factory which was helped to be set up by the same USofA and latter abandoned to be taken over by others. First you handle the militants in Aghanistan, then we may be able to face these militants, till them we can't fight them. We don't have the will and means to fight them.

9. Undercover agent: In 2011, the FBI revealed that Inter-Services Intelligence had illegally funded a lobbyist, Ghulam Nabi Fai, to influence U.S. policies in support of the Pakistani government's stance on the disputed territory of Kashmir. Though Fai has been sentenced to prison by a U.S. court, Pakistan never apologized for covertly funding Fai's activities.

Then why crying over Shakil Afridi ?? Fai even if was getting money, was doing it for a good cause, for kashmir, where 60K plus people have been killed by Indian security forces. You jail a person for doing something which related to Human Rights & killings, but cry over a Pakistani who did treason. What are the standards of hypocrisy of the US ???

10. Nuclear proliferation: Pakistan has never officially apologized for its nuclear proliferation. Abdul Qadeer Khan, the infamous Pakistani scientist, illegally supplied designs and centrifuge technology to Iran, Libya and North Korea. Though he publicly apologized, many believe Khan could not have acted without the tacit approval of segments of the Pakistani military.

Who provided nuclear plants to Iraq, South Africa, Israel and others. Why not bring up the names of western companies and countries who supply such material on the black market and the nuclear proliferation happens. Why not ban such companies. You blame the middle men, but not the western companies who export such things knowingly. height of hypocrisy.




Malik Siraj Akbar is an exiled Pakistani journalist based in Washington, D.C., and a fellow at the National Endowment for Democracy.

Pakistani journalists writing much much more about Pakistan & its secret agencies and military are living without fear in Pakistan, well known journalists, and this unknown bozo goes to US in self exiled mode. Pathetic.
 
1. Pakistan was never looking for OBL inside her, Pakistan was looking inside Afghanistan.

2. Shakil Afridi should have reported to ISI that he was helping a foreign intelligence agency, everything would be fine.

3. Has nothing to do with Pakistan. The Haqqani Network aren't even on USA's top priority list, nor does GoP support them.

4. It's the journalists problem, they shouldn't have reported in such areas which are insensitive to whites.

5. Mumbai attacks aren't Pakistan's problem, it's not Pakistan's fault for India having a $hitty police system. The LeT is also banned in Pakistan.

6. Suspect. This is all about suspecting, huh?

7. It's Pakistan's weapons, the PA can o anything they want with them.

8. Pakistan has killed hundreds of high ranking Taliban and al-Qaeda officials.

9. That's hypocrisy... USA blames Pakistan for jailing Afridi, a CIA agent, but then jails Fai, a ISI agent?

10. Khan's actions have nothing to do with GoP.
 
No wonder this dude is exiled.. Had he stayed in Pakistan, he probably would have met the fate of a lot of his journalist brothers whose tortured bodies keep turning up in all the weird places...

We don't like Ghaddars. You like them. May your country get more and more like this scum Malik Siraj Akbar.
 
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