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10 Interesting Facts about Allama Iqbal You Probably Didn't Know-

Iqbal's "Reconstruction of Islamic Thought" is about reforming or reconstructing Sharia Law [what do you think 'reconstruction' means?] in light of the modern world. He appreciates that the Turks are the first to take on this project of reforming Islamic though and thinks rest of the Muslims will also have to do the same.

His work is too long for me to paste here. I have already given you link to it. How you comment on it when you have not even read it? Be that as it may I have taken extracts which I want you to comment on. You of course are welcome to read his entire work but in case you don;t have time right now I have posted the extracts in post #17. Again I paste them below and your thoughts appreciated. Forget what I think. What do you think of what Iqbal is saying in his "Reconstruction" with extracts below.

Passing on to Turkey, we find that the idea of Ijtihād, reinforced and broadened by modern philosophical ideas, has long been working in the religious and political thought of the Turkish nation.

You will see that following a line of thought more in tune with the spirit of Islam, he reaches practically the same conclusion as the Nationalist Party, that is to say, the freedom of Ijtihād with a view to rebuild the laws of Sharī‘ah in the light of modern thought and experience.


[If Iqbal said this today in Pakistan he would be lynched]

The question which confronts him today, and which is likely to confront other Muslim countries in the near future is whether the Law of Islam is capable of evolution– a question which will require great intellectual effort, and is sure to be answered in the affirmative, provided the world of Islam approaches it in the spirit of ‘Umar– the first critical and independent mind in Islam who, at the last moments of the Prophet, had the moral courage to utter these remarkable words: “The Book of God is sufficient for us.


[Iqbal is writing this in 1930 with referance to Turkey which was going through Kemal's secular reforms]

The truth is that among the Muslim nations of today, Turkey alone has shaken off its dogmatic slumber, and attained to self-consciousness. She alone has claimed her right of intellectual freedom; she alone has passed from the ideal to the real– a transition which entails keen intellectual and moral struggle


[Iqbal clearly is impressed by the Turkish nationalists reforms under Kemal Ataturk - note this is 1930]


The closing of the door of Ijtihād is pure fiction suggested partly by the crystallization of legal thought in Islam, and partly by that intellectual laziness which, especially in the period of spiritual decay, turns great thinkers into idols.


[Again Iqbal today would get lynched for saying this. A mullah crazed mob would tear him apart]

Ps. Instead of puffing about Iqbal people do please take the darned time to read his work which is available online here > http://www.allamaiqbal.com/works/prose/english/reconstruction/

I have posted relevant extracts above from the said work by Sir Allama Iqbal. I would suggest people read his work before commenting.

Sir people here would not understand what you are saying and they would disagree with you because you chosen wrong approach. Now what you are trying to do is link iqbals work to the point of view you want to promote and I can link iqbals work to the point of view which says other wise.

In the end we will not reach any conclusion. To make it clear to you iqbal praised how Turkey used the Islamic point of view of tolerance and forgiveness in 1930 when iqbal was thinking about a joint society of Muslims and Hindus in subcontinent but when iqbal evolved he gave two nation theory based on Islam so what will you say about that. Instead of reinterpret follow the line of events as they happen. Humans evolve religion don't they are words of Allah Pak and they have in them the values of humanity you are looking for. Instead of reinterpretation you should search for what you are looking for with your religion. Stubbornness is not a way to move forward but submission and research is what will take you to truth.
 
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Sir people here would not understand what you are saying and they would disagree with you because you chosen wrong approach. Now what you are trying to do is link iqbals work to the point of view you want to promote and I can link iqbals work to the point of view which says other wise.

In the end we will not reach any conclusion. To make it clear to you iqbal praised how Turkey used the Islamic point of view of tolerance and forgiveness in 1930 when iqbal was thinking about a joint society of Muslims and Hindus in subcontinent but when iqbal evolved he gave two nation theory based on Islam so what will you say about that. Instead of reinterpret follow the line of events as they happen. Humans evolve religion don't they are words of Allah Pak and they have in them the values of humanity you are looking for. Instead of reinterpretation you should search for what you are looking for with your religion. Stubbornness is not a way to move forward but submission and research is what will take you to truth.
Bhai, have you read Allama Iqbal's works? I have not. So I can only rely on secondary sources.
 
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@BHarwana Take the time to read Iqbals "Reconstruction of Islamic Thought" and when you done it tag me - then we can discuss this further. In the meantime I have lost my appetite for further discussion with faggots like @MultaniGuy who can't talk about anything without having fantasy about gay fcukfests in Turkey.

@Indus Pakistan I understand what you want to say but then again unlike Turkish model it was iqbal who gave the dream of Pakistan which was both different from Turkey and Arabs so who evolved law of Islam or humans?
 
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You bring up Turkey. Do you agree with gay parades in Pakistan? Yes or no?

@BHarwana
@OsmanAli98

Turkey is decent nationalist country A real nationalist being a Turk,Pakistani,Russian,Chinese or whatever would not allow f...gots a space like pride parades or the promotion of it thats just ((neo-liberalism)) and ((multicultural)) crap pushed to degenrate a culture I oppose that and I oppose also the Arab primitive wahhabism which also destroys culture and uses religion for political means for few mullahs and their cronies

BTW this thread is worthless now that instead of talking about a National poet its now a troll fest and dick measuring contest
 
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Well if you are going against the fundamentals of Islam, like Salah or namaz, ofcourse you are going to get executed.


Wasn't the Ataturk an atheist?

What about changing the script of Arabic to Latin, do you agree with that?

Or are you a person with an agenda who wants gay pride parades in Pakistan like they do in Turkey?

@BHarwana, your views?
@OsmanAli98

@MultaniGuy bro stay out of it and don't bash him. You don't understand what he is saying. He means no disrespect but he is making an approach from a certain angle.
 
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Wasn't the Ataturk an atheist?
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Well that's a question some say he was agnostic some say a cultural Muslim or whatever thats a question Turks should firgure out of course Pakistanis would masterbate over Erdogan more than Ataturk
 
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Wasn't the Ataturk an atheist?

Well that's a question some say he was agnostic some say a cultural Muslim or whatever thats a question Turks should firgure out of course Pakistanis would masterbate over Erdogan more than Ataturk[/QUOTE]
Actually I do not care about Turkey, its not my country. They can do what they want.
 
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Well that's a question some say he was agnostic some say a cultural Muslim or whatever thats a question Turks should firgure out of course Pakistanis would masterbate over Erdogan more than Ataturk
Actually I do not care about Turkey, its not my country. They can do what they want.[/QUOTE]

Good, but sadly too many Pakistanis masterbate over Erdogan and Turkey way too much
 
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Actually I do not care about Turkey, its not my country. They can do what they want.

Good, but sadly too many Pakistanis masterbate over Erdogan and Turkey way too much[/QUOTE]
Why should Pakistanis care about other countries? Pakistanis need to care about their own country first before worrying about others.
 
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Good, but sadly too many Pakistanis masterbate over Erdogan and Turkey way too much
Why should Pakistanis care about other countries? Pakistanis need to care about their own country first before worrying about others.[/QUOTE]

That's a question I ask Pakistanis why you care about Erdogan and masterbate over him all the time
 
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Why should Pakistanis care about other countries? Pakistanis need to care about their own country first before worrying about others.

That's a question I ask Pakistanis why you care about Erdogan and masterbate over him all the time[/QUOTE]
I do not care about Erdogan. I do not even know Turkish politics to comment on.

I just have some knowledge. the AKP party and the CHP party. Thats all I know. My knowledge of Turkey is not that much.
 
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That's a question I ask Pakistanis why you care about Erdogan and masterbate over him all the time
I do not care about Erdogan. I do not even know Turkish politics to comment on.

I just have some knowledge. the AKP party and the CHP party. Thats all I know. My knowledge of Turkey is not that much.[/QUOTE]

Yet Pakistanis be like "ERDOGAN LEADER OF MUSLIM WORLD" AND SHIETT
 
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I do not care about Erdogan. I do not even know Turkish politics to comment on.

I just have some knowledge. the AKP party and the CHP party. Thats all I know. My knowledge of Turkey is not that much.

Yet Pakistanis be like "ERDOGAN LEADER OF MUSLIM WORLD" AND SHIETT[/QUOTE]
lol I thought Saudi Arabia or Iran wanted to be the leader of the Muslim World.

What makes you think Turkey has what it takes? lol?

I do not care about Erdogan. I do not even know Turkish politics to comment on.

I just have some knowledge. the AKP party and the CHP party. Thats all I know. My knowledge of Turkey is not that much.

Yet Pakistanis be like "ERDOGAN LEADER OF MUSLIM WORLD" AND SHIETT[/QUOTE]
Lol, show me which Pakistani said that?
 
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Yet Pakistanis be like "ERDOGAN LEADER OF MUSLIM WORLD" AND SHIETT
lol I thought Saudi Arabia or Iran wanted to be the leader of the Muslim World.

What makes you think Turkey has what it takes? lol?



Yet Pakistanis be like "ERDOGAN LEADER OF MUSLIM WORLD" AND SHIETT[/QUOTE]
Lol, show me which Pakistani said that?[/QUOTE]


Lots of people on this fourm,and irl
 
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lol I thought Saudi Arabia or Iran wanted to be the leader of the Muslim World.

What makes you think Turkey has what it takes? lol?



Yet Pakistanis be like "ERDOGAN LEADER OF MUSLIM WORLD" AND SHIETT
Lol, show me which Pakistani said that?[/QUOTE]


Lots of people on this fourm,and irl[/QUOTE]
Then dude they are dumb. Even in Facebook I thought you would have mentioned that.
 
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