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  1. Iceman

    Al Khalid camo scheme..

    yes .... they have a different cam scheme ... first different formation .. secondly ... different tanks ...!!!
  2. Iceman

    Al Khalid camo scheme..

    :-) .... sure will do brother ...!!!
  3. Iceman

    Al Khalid camo scheme..

    Its no where close to ghanta ghar ...!! and hmmm ... may be one odd unit close to fort colony .. but rest are not even close to fort colony ... :-) .. anyways ... yes ..dirty green is more precisely the color ... most of the locations in the southern punjab are now a combination of green belt...
  4. Iceman

    Al Khalid camo scheme..

    It is common knowledge that tanks in multan are of the strike corps. and yes you'd mostly find them in Olive Green Drab cam scheme. The tanks in Bahawalpur are all in desert cam. You move further north and you'd find tanks in Green cam because of their employment area being mostly Punjab. The...
  5. Iceman

    Pakistan Army Al-Zarrar Tank (Swat)

    Artillery ... :-) .. didnt miss it out on purpose ... Artillery has been amazing .. specially the medium guys ... but their role primarily remains till the initial or stages of combat. Once the encounter begins, thereon we cant effectively bring it down since we are in close quarters. Still...
  6. Iceman

    Pakistan Army Al-Zarrar Tank (Swat)

    As far as gunships are concerned, its not that we have not had their support... they have been with us and in almost cases, guaranteed sorties were given, but the Talis are quite clever. In ever house that was used as a bunker by them, we would come across a a dugout within the walls, most...
  7. Iceman

    Pakistan Army Al-Zarrar Tank (Swat)

    In fighting these areas, ranges that tanks so have an advantage are not found. We have even been fighting and firing at ranges that are even the below computation range of a ballistic computer. Its a very different kinda fight .... tanks are more of moving heavy guns rather than the shock action...
  8. Iceman

    Pakistan Army Al-Zarrar Tank (Swat)

    I have seen this part of the video a million times .... what u have assessed is exactly any layman would do ... i have been in these ops ... its much more complicated than just rolling in and playing havoc .. i wish it was this easy ... the reason tanks move back and we have done it on other...
  9. Iceman

    Pakistan Army Al-Zarrar Tank (Swat)

    i guess thats the reason then ... and yes you are right .. many a tanks taken out of action during ops have been refitted in HIT ... so we dont count them as destroyed ....!!! .. anyways .. tankers have done a great job out there ... :d .. thats for sure ...!!!
  10. Iceman

    Pakistan Army Al-Zarrar Tank (Swat)

    The number u are telling doesn't telly .. maybe because what u consider as destroyed does not count as such with us tankers ....as per my information ... the unit operating in the region lost only one tank .. and till the time they were there, there toll was only one and that was in Bajaur. RPGs...
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  12. Iceman

    Pakistan Army Al-Zarrar Tank (Swat)

    this is a strange version of the story .... what i got first hand from the people involved was that the tank was taken on by one of the RRs that the Talis had captured and hit on the left side close to the first bogie wheel .. the driver got injured by the hit and the tank got off the road and...
  13. Iceman

    I am Masters in Computer Science by formal education ... a soldier by profession... so formal...

    I am Masters in Computer Science by formal education ... a soldier by profession... so formal education aside ... now all my education is pertaining to profession of arms ... ... and now would u mind telling what were you interested in knowing ....
  14. Iceman

    Why I am not leaving Pakistan

    Let us all finally come to terms to the fact that the concept of Ummah (practically, not theoretically) is redundant. Its everyone for themselves. The Arabs, rather any other Muslim country in the world that we consider as our brothers, don't pay a rat about us. They always put their interest...
  15. Iceman

    Gentlemen please have a look.......

    what kind of BS is this...!!!!??
  16. Iceman

    How Al-Zarrar MBT was destroyed

    hi everyone .. its almost a year since this incident took place..... and well we have taken a year to come to terms with this loss .... there are of course many versions to what had happened that day, not any of them is entirely accurate. I will not go in details of what and how things happened...
  17. Iceman

    How Al-Zarrar MBT was destroyed

    Both Al-Zs were lost to enemy fire on two different ocassions. Out of the eight crew members, 4 were lost. Out of the four, one was lost to the direct effect of tank being destroyed. Remaining three were lost to allied incidents, such as being shot while evacuating from the burning tanks. I...
  18. Iceman

    Pakistan Army Question Thread

    well .. yeah ... the standard inf eqpt of a soldier is still very redundant and old styled in Pakistan Army. The army is in the process of preparing GSR for new eqpt, that includes kevlar BPJs and helmets, plus some other basic eqpts. Still the matter is in the pipeline and will take some more...
  19. Iceman

    Numbers of New Tanks in army

    bz with work ... come back to you in sometime
  20. Iceman

    Al-Khalid, Type 98, and T-90 Dominate World Tank Market

    this is just the initial production formalities that failed in case of Arjun .. trust me ..i could write another 5 pages on the technical flaws of Arjun ..... which are internationally accepted and known .... :D No matter how we have produced Al-Khalid .. it is a success story for sure and the...
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