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  1. Asoka

    The J-20-engine discussion is over and other speculative topics ... to separate from the J-20-news !

    Let me be very clear that although it is very frustrating that Mr. Deino and Mr. Figaro do not believe my "outlandish" theory that J-20 has been flying with WS-15 since Day One, I do not believe they are malicious people, here to disparage the accomplishment of the Chinese people. This is a...
  2. Asoka

    The J-20-engine discussion is over and other speculative topics ... to separate from the J-20-news !

    LOL. This is like some Christians keep quoting scriptures to "prove" his points, but do not trying to explain what they mean. "XS-12 engine is not WS-12 engine. And neither is xs-10 = WS-10." I beg to differ. Mr. Deino asked a very puzzling, disturbing but very valid question, why so many...
  3. Asoka

    The J-20-engine discussion is over and other speculative topics ... to separate from the J-20-news !

    There is an XS-10 弹用发动机, or WS-10 弹用发动机, if I am not mistaken. "1. If this is your attitude, then there is indeed no basis to discuss this further." Yes, it is sad to see someone insisted living in a fantastical delusion, despite all the evidences around him. I have learn a lot about how the...
  4. Asoka

    The J-20-engine discussion is over and other speculative topics ... to separate from the J-20-news !

    Those are small or micro-fan engine for cruise missiles. They are not large and expensive WS-10/12 Turbofan engines. I am well aware that cruise missiles uses a small turbo engine to power itself.
  5. Asoka

    The J-20-engine discussion is over and other speculative topics ... to separate from the J-20-news !

    1. "As a man from nature science I can easily handle the truth." Not really, "Science" is a cult, just like Christianity and other ancient cults. New Truths will be rejected flat-out, if new evidences do not fit its existing dogmas. Many "scientists" behaves exactly like cult-members". You...
  6. Asoka

    The J-20-engine discussion is over and other speculative topics ... to separate from the J-20-news !

    1. "he is probably one of the least reliable and trustworthy members of the PDF " LOL. I am here for the Truth and Mr. Deino can't handle the Truth. He would just love to live in his delusional pet theory that J-20 has been flying with the AL-31 engine from day one, and still is, even J-20 is...
  7. Asoka

    The J-20-engine discussion is over and other speculative topics ... to separate from the J-20-news !

    1. "Clearly the other Chinese members here have interpreted it differently than u ... why not just accept that and drop it? " I am still waiting for an answer from the Chinese Counter-Intelligence Damage Control Team to explain, why would anyone want to strap a large and expensive multi-million...
  8. Asoka

    The J-20-engine discussion is over and other speculative topics ... to separate from the J-20-news !

    1. "The engine is X... Not WS " I have already explained that "XS" stands for "WS". Obscuring certain names or use code word is common technique to confuse potential spies. 2. "Normally Chinese don't talk like you." No, they don't. My wife keep telling me, I am "special" (not in a compliment...
  9. Asoka

    The J-20-engine discussion is over and other speculative topics ... to separate from the J-20-news !

    "the word 弹用 means missile/bomb. So in this case it means missile propulsion." Oh really? Do Pray tell what benefits there are to strap a large 2m x 4m long WS-10/12 TurboFan Jet engine, on an expendable, one time use only Bomb or Missile? If you are member of the Chinese Counter-Intelligence...
  10. Asoka

    The J-20-engine discussion is over and other speculative topics ... to separate from the J-20-news !

    It's a figure of speech, mr. cat. I am sure you understand. I didn't say I am the only one-eye man, in the Land of the Blinds. I am sure there could be other one-eye man, in China, who already knew the truth, but they are not allow to speak out, otherwise, the Chinese State Security would take...
  11. Asoka

    The J-20-engine discussion is over and other speculative topics ... to separate from the J-20-news !

    "Indeed amazing ... You are surrounded by idiots, all ignorant propaganda-believer and You the only, the chosen one to understand." I am the One-Eye man, in the Land of the Blinds. I am the only one who can see, and that carries a heavy burden, unfortunately. Not many people believes, what I...
  12. Asoka

    The J-20-engine discussion is over and other speculative topics ... to separate from the J-20-news !

    Yes, that is true. "It is in the meantime widely accepted . . ." by the ignoramus. "so that even international respected [and ignorant] scholars agree. " True too. "No. "弹用" is short for "导弹用"/"for missile use" and XS-10/XS-12 are not WS-10/WS-12." XS-10, XS-12, XS-13, XS-15, XS-19, XS-19 . ...
  13. Asoka

    The J-20-engine discussion is over and other speculative topics ... to separate from the J-20-news !

    What a joke! You need get beyond pre-schooler reading comprehension. What in the world does a Jet Engine has anything to do with "ammunition"? "弹用" is obviously short for "弹射用", "for catapult use" You need smarter supporters, Mr. Deino. for your long bankrupted and silly theory that J-20 was...
  14. Asoka

    The J-20-engine discussion is over and other speculative topics ... to separate from the J-20-news !

    Correction. The current (second) version of WS-15 on J-20 is in low serial production, just like the J-20. The newer (third) WS-15 with three layers of nozzle petals is in the testing phase. This is the mass production version, I believe. "since he is the only one, who "knows". " That nails...
  15. Asoka

    The J-20-engine discussion is over and other speculative topics ... to separate from the J-20-news !

    Yes, keep banging your head on the wall. The Truth is not going away. It is more than absurd that J-20 was flying with an AL-31 engine, and still is.
  16. Asoka

    The J-20-engine discussion is over and other speculative topics ... to separate from the J-20-news !

    1. "I have heard of a WS-12 somewhere ... I don't remember anything about a catapult engine but I'm sure the WS-12 is an actual engine." In this picture, it clearly stated "XS-10 弹用发动机", and "XS-12 弹用发动" . "弹用" means Catapult. It also mentioned a "XS-13E 发动机", but no mention of Catapult. I...
  17. Asoka

    The J-20-engine discussion is over and other speculative topics ... to separate from the J-20-news !

    1. "there is no WS-12 catapult engine We have seen pictures of two J-20 equipped with WS-10 like saw-tooth nozzles. This Report stated that there are two WS-10/12 Catapult engines under limited production. Naturally, this could indicates J-20 is being testing with these two WS-10/12 engines...
  18. Asoka

    The J-20-engine discussion is over and other speculative topics ... to separate from the J-20-news !

    "I was referring to the WS-15 production rates your source stated ... rates that are quite low." As I have said, this Report's writer do not know what is PLAAF's production plans are for the next few years. The 5 WS-15 engines for 2026 is obviously absurdly low, even just for this company. "If...
  19. Asoka

    The J-20-engine discussion is over and other speculative topics ... to separate from the J-20-news !

    LOL. What are your "most indications" that says otherwise? It simply explains a lot what we have seen in the last few years. It confirms that the Chinese jet Engine development is very active. They have multiple engine development programs for J-20, including two for the PLAN Navy with...
  20. Asoka

    The J-20-engine discussion is over and other speculative topics ... to separate from the J-20-news !

    It is no secret now, that the third Chinese Carriers will have a Catapult. They have studied the steam catapult and EM catapult. And they have determined the benefits of EM catapult outweighs risk of EM catapult. Since they never have operated the Steam catapult either, the risk of EM is no...
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