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The reason why people don't deny it is partly to do with the special kind of status it's given. One of the leading scholars of the Holocaust Raul Hilberg, also thinks that holocaust denial should not be criminalized. It's fear and paranoia that just isn't fitting of the modern age no doubt, no...

Absolutely. I have a post regarding this somewhere explaining this is in a nice logical way. Being anti-Israeli, anti-zionist and anti-semitic are 3 different worlds. And only 2 types of people try to group these categories, the extreme pro Israeli lot and the anti Israeli extremists.

What do you expect? Let's not kid ourselves, if there's any people Muslims aren't too fond of it's Israelis, and their own association with Zionism and Judaism, it's only to be expected that when it comes to things like this, Muslims are overrepresented.

Nazis are one of hundreds embodiment with a few bad human behaviors strung together by environmental and social factors. Is Nazism any better or worse than the poison spread in Rwanda that let to genocide there? Why is this case put above others?

For the sake of civil liberties, I would have even a genocide against my own people allowed to be denied, the freedom of thought is of paramount importance.

I don't agree with it. There's plenty bad in the world, there's plenty of disgraceful excuses and support for it, why is this one outlawed the others so forcefully upheld by rather selective civil liberties?

Ramadan mubarak. Happy fasting! :crazy_pilot:

Orwell was a genius, must have had the gift of foresight too. He gave us all sorts of warnings and red lights in his books which are always chilling. There is overwhelming evidence for the existence of the Holocaust. The numbers are disputed, the details are disputed and the reaction and it's...

Of course not, but genocide is genocide, and it happens to pretty much everyone, but denying that has never been a crime, it's just been considered stupid and immoral.

No more off topic stuff, on blasphemy or whatever. Any further posts and you will all be adding to whatever action we need to take against off topic posts. I'm going through the thread.

The west has blood on it's hands,just like anyone, in fact morose. Don't be fooled, just because their method of killing is pretty, go on the victim's end and ask them if it's not genocide. Example, The carpet bombing of Laos, Operation Menu, the largest bombing op in history. The bombing of...

In an ideal world yes, but last I checked freedom of speech protects many heinous beliefs, statements and expressions of those beliefs. Take a case you and I might see around you right now, some of the hate mongering done on anti-Islamic circles is bordering on calling for mass genocide, Anders...

That's extremely authoritarian. Infringing the very democratic rights it claims to uphold. Irony!

It's against the law because thanks to the attention given to it due to reasons you and I know all too well, it is considered more sacred than freedom of speech, than freedom of speech itself by Western politicians and media.

No, this is for real. But like I said, I'd dare not share the story here.

Sell the car. I know most members don't believe in this or don't care much, but I've witnessed this sort of thing first hand when I was young, not to me, but to a close family member, and it didn't end well. I wouldn't dream of sharing the story here, but it happened.

I wish to see this government go through it's 5 years, come hell or high water. And don't worry about Qadri, it's a short lived drama. All his promises of inquilab are all false. The Rupee can, but not within the foreseeable future, it won't be sustainable if it does. And on hurting exports...

I can't say for certain, it depends on how this government handles it, unless it has more tricks up it's sleeves like Saudi grants, it is possible for it to fall that low. By the way, the fall that occurred before it was bought steady to the 100 mark is no accurate estimate for what might occur...

Exactly, what I've been saying too, it's all very temporary. In fact, PKR will come sliding down again when the effects of the loans kick in again.

Qadri himself is most responsible for those deaths and has been playing this huge drama since day one