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there was no argument about dogfights of f16s or f15s losing against Russia in simulated events before, they have in mock-fights. We have never lost an f15 in any real situation ever --you people are idiots!! check your facts... f15 is still king of the skies it has never ever been shot down by...

everyone has an opinion and presenting all these googled facts that they know nothing about!!! have you been to lockheed, I have, Have you seen an f35 up close and seen the cockpit, I have. My father was an airline engineer from the US navy for 40 years and all these bozos get on these defense...

everyone has an opinion and presenting all these googled facts that they know nothing about!!! have you been to lockheed, I have, Have you seen an f35 up close and seen the cockpit, I have. My father was an airline engineer from the US navy for 40 years and all these bozos get on these defense...