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  1. Chestnut

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Honestly, let's just look at things from a rather blunt perspective. Right now, a few of ours neighbors are dealing with a state that are intruding onto their EEZ's and are leaning onto the US power block. Considering our attempts to be "neutral" has led to this certain state to intrude onto...
  2. Chestnut

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    Simple, what is cheaper and a less risky design to undertake? Even with the 30FFM hull it still wouldn't be considered even marginally better if all the sub-systems are still the same. Consider this, the Israeli's Navy Sa'ar 6 is on paper a corvette, but outmatches the capabilities and...
  3. Chestnut

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Keep in mind, that Taiwan's case is special in regards to it's unique security situation. So I generally avoid looking to its DSCA releases for comparisons.
  4. Chestnut

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Slovakia and Bulgaria are first time F-16 users, you can't compare us to them because they are also paying for the initial infrastructure and support network.
  5. Chestnut

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    I assume the only reason he was pushing for the F-35 is just a political tool he can use for yet another presidential run that he is going to lose. That depends whether Biden will keep his word about being 'tough on China' in spite of his son's antics. Supporting India and Indonesia against...
  6. Chestnut

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    The P-8 would be cheaper to operate overall as the 737 support chain is FAR larger than what the P-1 can drum up. That alone is a big deciding factor when it comes to procurement.
  7. Chestnut

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Because as an unproved concept, no wants to be the one who bears the burden of being the launch customer.
  8. Chestnut

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    I stand corrected
  9. Chestnut

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    They're fully customizable, you can just have them build the hull with all other subsystems from either Thales or Terma/Hensoldt
  10. Chestnut

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    You can't really count it like that, apart from Morocco and Taiwan, the rest of the countries are 1st time Viper users and would have a higher overall program cost in general.
  11. Chestnut

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    As I said before, it is very likely just reporter assumption. The F-16V would not be attractive or competitive enough to the Rafale if it wasn't offered with the APG-83 radar.
  12. Chestnut

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    I am fairly sure that the US is not afraid of selling us fighters with AESA capability, there are concerns sure but I don't think it's any different than the usual stuff from congress. Considering our neighbors already operate the F-35 as well as AEGIS equipped ships, their concerns about...
  13. Chestnut

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Fairly sure this is just the journalist's take on the offer. The actual reason is likely cost that the government does not want to pay. Which is ever more mind-boggling considering Prabowo wants to potentially go with the Rafale, which is going to be MORE expensive to buy, integrate, and operate.
  14. Chestnut

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Unfortunately this isn't going to come out at a time where the AL/AU needs the longer ranged MPA's. As of now we are pretty much stuck on Boeing's P-8, EADS's C-295MPA, or SAAB's Swordfish. I'm fairly sure they're offering that as either a counter offer if MenHan can't afford new built V's or...
  15. Chestnut

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Is the AL even considering the Scorpene seriously if they take Malaysia's Scorpene into account?
  16. Chestnut

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    The closest open slot for the F-35 is in the 2030's, why would they bother offering it anyways on top of the lack of experience in 4.5th gen capabilities?
  17. Chestnut

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Still in service means the type is still used by the USAF. It doesn't automatically mean a used item.
  18. Chestnut

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    You know what would be funny? If the Prime Minister suddenly dies of a heart attack or slips in the shower or something. That would just be the single most interesting twist in this country's history
  19. Chestnut

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    It would just be small components and spare parts production. Don't think it's going to be anything that MenHan wants like EO or Radar parts. Trust me, when it comes to the Israelis it's highly unlikely it would be half assed. Their entire country's economy revolves around its defense industry.
  20. Chestnut

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    It's a Mauser, not a Garand
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