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    Azerbaijan interested in Pakistan’s long-range missiles

    Azerbaijanis can probably get North Koreans themselves. That's the last resort, if everything else fails, since buying from NK is a sure way to arouse unwelcome interest and scrutiny from every corner of the world. This is not so. Do you have any concrete examples of such a scenario being...
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    Azerbaijan interested in Pakistan’s long-range missiles

    What do you mean? Please elaborate.
  3. gr8vision

    Azerbaijan interested in Pakistan’s long-range missiles

    If I may guess the answer: Israeli weapons are expensive. Turkey doesn't yet have the long-range missiles that Azerbaijan seems to look for according to the news. And Russia is not selling Iskander yet - only next year will it be offered for export. So Pakistan, as well as China, are natural...
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    Azerbaijan interested in Pakistan’s long-range missiles

    For Azerbaijan, like Turkey, Georgia, Kazakhstan, etc., it seems the point is to depend less on Russia, as well as to support the friendly country of Pakistan.
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    Azerbaijan interested in Pakistan’s long-range missiles

    There are actually no strict laws. Everyone referring to MTCR obviously never read it. Pakistan has nothing stopping it from exporting it to anyone, aside from restrictions by component manufacturers. Because JF-17 are not sold to anyone before fulfilling Pakistan's own demand. Then there is a...
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    Azerbaijan interested in Pakistan’s long-range missiles

    It does make a lot of sense, but has there been anything in the Pakistani media, and how truly accurate and reliable are these Pakistani missiles? the MoD might not want to reveal something like this - a game-changer - in the immediate future, so that's why I asked if there is such a leak in...
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    Azerbaijan interested in Pakistan’s long-range missiles

    The Azerbaijani media continues to write about interest in acquisition of Shaheen-1 and Hatf-4. Has there been anything in the Pakistani media? Also, how reliable and accurate are Shaheen-1 and Hatf-4? Is there any data? www.contact.az Azerbaijan strengthens missile forces and air defense...
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    Oops: Azerbaijan released election results before voting had even started

    First of all, what does this news/threat even do in a Defense forum? Secondly, Aliyev ended up winning with 85% of the vote, much more than the percentage given to him by the app. Third, since when are pan-Turkic credentials of Aliyev (or Nazarbayev) questioned - especially by anyone who...
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    Turkish government raises defense budget for next year

    Deleted the double post which was due to this website's malfunctioning. Please delete this post completely.
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    Turkish government raises defense budget for next year

    Actually, Turkish defense budget is rather large, and getting larger. The countries mentioned such as Canada and Australia are much larger geographically than Turkey, plus have very high wages. South Korea is constantly under the threat of annihilation by its crazy brother to the north, hence...
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    T-LORAMIDS Tender | Updates & Discussion

    Oh, man, let me explain to you how things work in real world, especially in military procurement and government contracts: they don't "just happen" overnight. Some government official doesn't just go to a bazar and decide to buy something. The processes take years, with multiple RFDs and other...
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    T-LORAMIDS Tender | Updates & Discussion

    Where's $30 billion from? Inflation? ;-) Please be more accurate and careful when posting something. U.S. was never a real contender - the problem with Patriot's is not their price (they are well worth their price considering that they are the only true battle-tested system of the 4 offered...
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    T-LORAMIDS Tender | Updates & Discussion

    As a Turk, I would never buy a Patriot PAC-3 for the purposes that the Turkish government stated - long-range, strategic air defense and ABM. Patriot's, which are excellent for their purposes and the only truly battle-tested air-defense systems from the 4 offered to Turkey, are mostly tactical...
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    T-LORAMIDS Tender | Updates & Discussion

    Turkish officials could have flown to all 4-5 countries, and witnessed tests there. In which case, I am sure all tests would show 100% accuracy - which in real combat is impossible to achieve. Had any tests been conducted in Turkey, the Turkish press would have written about it, not some...
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    T-LORAMIDS Tender | Updates & Discussion

    The 300km claim is unlikely even in the latest variant, HQ-9B. All sources, albeit for HQ-9, say up to 125km. PLA Area Defence Missile Systems HQ-9 Where are Chinese sources that claim 300km? How reliable are they? Is there a Xinhua or similar authoritative government report, or...
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    T-LORAMIDS Tender | Updates & Discussion

    Calling someone ignorant does not mask or deny the fact that every source out there states - that HQ9 is a rip off of S-300. Every source out there, including top military experts with technical degrees and education, say that. For example, Dr. Kopp (PEngineering): CPMIEC HQ-9 / HHQ-9 / FD-2000...
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    T-LORAMIDS Tender | Updates & Discussion

    Sinan, didn't you read the Chinese blog that our Chinese friend posted here on this thread as "proof" - according to that blog post from Sina/********, all 4 SAM's (Russian, Italian/French, U.S. and Chinese) were "tested" - i.e., had actual trials - in Turkey, and all failed to achieve 100% mark...
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    T-LORAMIDS Tender | Updates & Discussion

    Not sure what you mean by "read group midcourse interception", or "opinion of the Russians translated in Chinese", but the facts were layed out clearly. And please do explain why did China purchase 15 S-300PMU-2 in March 2010? No comments? I see you've closed your eyes on that - why? Very...
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    T-LORAMIDS Tender | Updates & Discussion

    To bet with you? It seems some of the forum members have a very inflated sense of self-worth. No offense, but you are a nobody in the world of Chinese military production, acquisition, development, production, and exports. Hence, it would be stupid for anyone to "bet" with you about something...
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    T-LORAMIDS Tender | Updates & Discussion

    I don't care about Su-35 and this thread is not about Su-35. Please don't try to intentionally confuse people and wiezel out of being caught red-handed. The fact of the matter is that China wanted to buy S-400 and has agreed with Russia about deliveries in 2017. There are plenty of news about...
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