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I really have no real idea about what SSM will choose but to be honest I think they will choose Otokar. Otokar (Koc) has really influence in goverment and they are deeply rooted family. To add that FNSS is not a fully national, %49 of its shares are BAE owned so they lose on national product...

It is not a different design, it just has add-on armour. :)

Okudum ama Irak Kürdistan'ının bize herhangi bir açıdan bağlanması, bu yazarın sözü ile ''de-facto'' bile olsa büyük bir hata. Bu ''dahi'' gibi bu konu birçok AKP yanlısı ''aydın'' ve ''akademisyen'' tarafından ortalığa...

Yea, the ones we have are such joys to live with, we bring another 10+ million Kurds to our country... I really wonder what kind of reality these ''geniuses'' live.

Maybe you are trying to tell us that with 105 mm air-portable howitzers, we don't need air-portable gun platforms for infantry support? I call genius! :D

That would be a reasonable need if we were in oversea operations in which we needed air deployment of armoured vehicles but we are not. Maybe they are going to built these vehicles for international markets, propably for UAE and KSA. Mystery solved. :smart: :triniti: No Offtopics Arms... >_>...

These would be useful for light vehicles but for IFVs these looks too vulnerable. For both personal safety and vehicle survivability, Otokar needs to implant something similar to what Bradley IFVs are using. I fully agree with you on TD part and to be honest, they lacked the gun power of...

I just hope that they plan to have more sophisticated missile launchers in which missiles are protected from arms fire.

Three airports might be a little overdoing it but I always welcome investments :D Btw, Tehran Khomeini Airport was also build by Turkish companies (Tepe and Akfen) and also one in Tunusia :D And to my knowledge, Tepe Construction also did one airport for Nato in Afghanistan, modified two...

There was no genocide in World War I and it always makes me shake my head in disappointment when I see Turks using the same tactics of Armenians and some Greeks, calling massacres and ethnic cleansings a genocide. Yes, Greek Army killed countles Turks and forced them out of their homes but we...

Thanks Sinan!

MIDEAST - Turkey refutes Sunday Times report, ruling out military cooperation with Israel

This is a thread about freedom of speech/thought in Turkey and this does not incluede forumers personal feelings about their respective religions or their thoughts on religious issues. To avoid infractions (I'll consider deleted posts as a warning), please do keep your posts about constitution...

He has control over what goverment can control and thats why interest rates were reduced because the instution that controls the interest rates (Central Bank) is state controlled. Btw, abortion isn't banned in Turkey, what do you think Turkey is? And no, Presidental system leads to nothing but...

I just hope that his highness Erdo the First of Sharia-Erdo Empire will be merciful enough to forgive me for expressing my thoughts.

BMC is one of the largest if not THE largest industrial/commercial/military vehicle producer of the whole Balkan and Middle East region which happens to be a Turkish owned company. They also export military/commercial/industrial vehicles countless countries, support thausand of jobs in Turkey...

Zombie thread resurrected with an off-topic post. Closed.

I forgot to add this to my post but timing is also very unwise. Until now, our security forces didn't have the modern means to fight against unconventional warfare. For example, they didn't have armed drones and modern helicopters such as T-129 or Eurocopter. Few years from now, our security...

Hey Guys! First, sorry for not noticing your messages. And about your request, I don't think it would be appropriate for a Defence Forum to have a sticky thread about music.

This may seem a bit long but hear me out :D I can only speak for myself and few others I am closed to but for me, federalism or autonomy is unacceptable. This whole talks about federalism is to solve the infamous ''Kurdish Problem'' and I can support a solution but things should be done by...