The engine of F-15 and Su-27 produces around 100kn, and they were the king of the sky. The F119 produces 190kn and could supercruise at Mach 1.8 w/o afterburner. For this reason alone, F-22 is unbeatable when faces the 4-gen. fighters.
And we are not accounting the use of the splitter vanes by WS-15, which makes the air compressor much shorter, and lighter, while deliver far higher compression ratio. Thus greatly improved the engine performance in all altitudes and speed.
And by using your temperature table of the alloys, we could safely assume, the performance of WS-15 is well above that of the f119 and f135, that is well above 210kn.
The max thrust of f119 is not 156kn, and max thrust of f135 is not 190kn. It is listed that the dry thrust of f119 is 116kn, and if we assume that's 60% of the wet thrust, that would give us 193kn.
all webpages that i used to reference that WS-15 has 210kn or even greater has since disappeared. the chinese government does monitor PDF and other forum.
even Mr. Daokou is sticking to the conventional claim that WS-15 has maximum thrust of 180kn. if he claims a higher number, the government would shut down his website.
how do you know that? what new information you got? 210kn is my minimum wet thrust for WS-15. This is not the figure I really want to say. To reveal it, would really upset the chinese government.
'For me, 180KN is more than enough."
For you that's enough. No doubt.
What is so scary is that 210kN is just my minimum estimate. The actual max. thrust of ws-15 is well beyond that. IMO. That's why the Chinese desperately wants to keep the state of WS-15's development, one of the highest...
I thought I was the first one to come up with the max. thrust of 210kN for WS-15. Looks like, I was wrong. Someone posted this figure back in 2012-5-20. He beat me to it by over 4 years. Most importantly, this user fsguoj, like me. believes 210kN is a quite conservative figure. Hence, I usually...
Thanks Bro, for your staunch support. I think my points really gets to those narrowed minded people is because China's defense is improving very fast. They can't stand it when I keep reminding them. They want to keep their heads in the sand, and not see the truth. They are in a DENIAL mode.
Thanks jkroo for defending me and your strong support over the last year. Deino banned me again and deleted me recent posts, and called me many ridiculous names, for arguing over a 1.0m difference in J-20's wingspan and body length. LOL.