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    Indonesia Defence Forum

    any plan to denmark for mod?
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    Those "alays" media, specially in youtube is part of process from a democratic developing country,every developing country has them, event thai and sokor has them, its a normal thing although also irritating, but its a part of process being grown up I'm personally doesn't agree with 5th october...
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    One of Jokowi sponsor for precidency? Very succesfull businessman, with his backhround in telecom business, hope he can do great colaboration with prabowo give mod inputs in his scopes of experience
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    at the first thought it will be more logical and more realistic to continue to work with korea for the next batch, but i think the decision maker have something in mind to open the tender, looking best price or best transfer of technology from various source maybe, that is why they let turkey...
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    yes indonesia has chosen korea for second batch (3 unit u209) subs procurement last april, but turkey will have opportunity offer to build u214 with Germany assistance for indonesian navy beyond 2024 to continue complete total 12 subs ideal, i hope there is positive progress in current turkey...
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    as an indonesian i'm also surprised and disappoint CH4 win over ANKA in UCAV procurement, even thought the ANKA has better specification from what i read, there's some rumors back then, i forgot the source but some forumers says indonesian navy consider U214 made in turkey in joint development...
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    that alman guy said the OPV price is 1.1 trilion for a single 90m opv? a single hull FFBNW, i'm curious is not too pricey isn't it?
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    Indonesia Defence Forum

    We can use google translate btw, sometimes i use it a lots of times, translating not only from english but sometimes also from korea and thai, but tbh the most critical point in absorbing information is about details, read it carefully and keep our head cool
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    Indonesia Defence Forum

    yes like israeli for an example
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    yes make sense, but the dutch did it in java, in papua where mountains and jungle are thick it will be much difficult to supervise the roads and outpost even in modern times, meanwhile we have air chivalry but it needs much longer time to deploy in a huge land area, by making a part of the city...
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    Indonesia Defence Forum

    perhaps for medieval problems need medieval solutions hehe, i think as long we not making human rights issue, no one will bother us
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    for hinterland papua, is it posible to use fortification around city? and make strict regulation on locals inside the wall, use tower and wall, use 24/7 uav for surveillance, add special eq for marksman like NVG, conscription for non-locals like a country in middle east, and for sokor i think...
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    from what i read in his timeline our procurement looks unfocus inconsisten, ANKA should be the winner but CH4 who's elected
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    political pressure from the dutch? or the others? we need to compete with big boys in the neighborhood and someone says we better build smaller ship because of political support, and risking our own national safety, well that is stupid imo,
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    Indonesia Defence Forum

    from various site i've read our share still 20%, on july according to tirto mr wiranto says we want to renegotiate cut our share, i dont know is the renegotiation in on progress or not,
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    i was wondering about late indo-sokor defence cooperation and looking for public opinion in sokor about the cooperation, searching trought news website and ending in youtube comment, but the result was shocking me, we indonesian (well atleast) majority view the indo-sokor cooperation with...
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    What is advantage of arrowhead compare to danish iver anyway? For me the arrowhead looks like sunat version of the real iver, some old post said the navy want to make bigger iver with up to 64vls, cmiiw, But btw its not to much if we want to switch our regional balance to much bigger scale of...
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    i think what nike said us=indonesia not us(a)
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    Indonesia Defence Forum

    thank you, glad to hear it, but deep in my heart i wish we could have add bigger share not only 20%, but is there any posibilities for us to raise the share?
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    newbie here... there is some mazy information about our kfx/ifx project with south korea, are indonesian share in kfx project is there same as before (20%)? some of local news says the gov wants to cut the share (source...
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