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  1. initial_d_mk2

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    No, their coast guard confront our ship bacause the nine dash line, they try to legitimate their claim by fishing on the area, and we reply it be law enforcement by our navy, coast guard and fishery ministry ship, trust me, we don't sell our sovereignty over anything
  2. initial_d_mk2

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Yes there are plenty chinese fishing vessel out there, but they are smarter than the vietnamese, thai, malaysian and fillipinos, the chinese buy license to fish here, built cold storage in indonesia and built canned factory for their fish that they catch here in indonesia and exported it to...
  3. initial_d_mk2

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    We need chinese money, technology and economic hub, but it doesn't mean we sell our sovereignity, come on man, we don't want to be like the phillipinos in cold war era, they taking side and make their country dependant to U.S.A,
  4. initial_d_mk2

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    The chinese actually a good ballance check for japanase, korean, american (western) influence, they gave us option, and make chinese competitor woeing us with better deal, we are neutral country, our only concern is to our own benefits not to america nor china Act strong!!?? What kind of...
  5. initial_d_mk2

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    If we were on chinese influence we would never change the name of the sea surrounding natuna and not gonna put millitary hardware there, indeed the chinese won several big project the last few year, but that is bussiness, they won it because of competitive price, we were trying to make the...
  6. initial_d_mk2

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    We already on the way of starting to learn how to make jet fighter by colaborating with south korea on KFX program, in indonesia weapon purchase it is obligated to have transfer of technology in every aspect so we can Learn to built our own not just buying it
  7. initial_d_mk2

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    What the f*ck are you talking about!!?? How the hell china can "take over" indonesia!?don't tell me you are one of those 212 guys, use your brain man, who do you think we are, a bunch of dumb ***!! We are smarter than that, please don't insult your own intelectual!!
  8. initial_d_mk2

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    My guess are in 2030-2040 China #1 USA #2 India #3 Indonesia #4 Japan #5
  9. initial_d_mk2

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Tinggal pasang cannon 30mm atau 76mm didepan dan semprotan air bertekanan tinggi deh, trus kirim ke natuna hehehehehe
  10. initial_d_mk2

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Ga ngerti gw kenapa tni al-kemenhan masih ngebet ma kilo!! Kan banyak type lontong yg disodorin buat tot yg lbh bagus dr kilo Jangan2 ngiler kickbacknya lagi......
  11. initial_d_mk2

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Not enough space i guess, pindad and DI are located on a crowded area, that's make expansion hard to do, especially for DI, i guess new location in lampung are not on the same area for DI, Pindad And Pal, i my self support this idea
  12. initial_d_mk2

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    For a motorised moving SAM battery i rather choose pantsyr to protect mobile assets (tank, troop etc), Nasams are perfect for protecting fixed asset like millitary base, and if we want long range air defence, S-400 or standard SM-6 Will do the job (if we can afford it gkgkgk), anyway this is...
  13. initial_d_mk2

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Which missile do we bought for Nasams, sidewinder or Amraam!? And where will the TNI gonna put the system?
  14. initial_d_mk2

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    After cooperating with south korea and now with turkey, i hope we can cooperate with others nation also, like sweden, Denmark and south Africa
  15. initial_d_mk2

    China-US Geopolitics: News & Discussions

    The U.S already sold weapons to Pakistan long before they sold weapons to india
  16. initial_d_mk2

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Wkwkwk is he really get banned with only one post!! He must be attacking chinese member here, i always get banned after a "discussion" with chinese pdf member, but not if i get serious fight with vietnamese or other nationality...... Beer for him then,
  17. initial_d_mk2

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Apa ini artinya tidak ada rencana pembelian iver atau kapal sejenisnya!!?? Hikssss......
  18. initial_d_mk2

    Vietnam Defence Forum

    Nah, viet are vietnamese, i am not replying on that croat guy, i am out now, i will let those vietnamese imagining shit that will never happen, good days you gays, i have to drive to work.
  19. initial_d_mk2

    Vietnam Defence Forum

    Big lols for you and your delution bhahaha..... Caste system!? Errrrr perhaps you mistaken us with India lol.... Talking about lack of education :)
  20. initial_d_mk2

    Vietnam Defence Forum

    Let them be, they are living in their own fantasy, their parent inhale too much agent orange that makes them a bit "special" if you know what i mean lols...... You know, i have to admit that vietnamese are number one in south east asia, number one in delusional and bullshiting.....
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