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I am never be that naive to be brainwashed as you said that communist party trying to seize power. Again, it's all for the sake of politics. Uncle Sam at that time didn't want us go to the direction towards Papa bear so they created it. But cmiiw. It's just my raw search and analysis.

Any news about our Chang Bogo sea trial ? And will the second and third happened in 2017 and 2018 ? No picture hoax philosophy. Which I agree with.

I see your point and I stand corrected. All in all, my point is most of Indonesian will never or avoid to talk about socialism since its proximity and similarity to communism and because something happened in the past. It's blurry.

Socialism is a softer way to talk about communist. Socialism and communist teach the same thing, Equality among citizen. That is why I told before that it's all about politics. Most people hate communism because of anarchist communism that aggressively want to change capitalism in to socialism.

I am the one who think that communist in Indonesia (well mostly others too) is more to the politics. It's more to US of A vs Soviet than the Capitalist vs Communist. The fact, we'll be surprised that we live several points of Commies in to our live : 1. Fifth point of Pancasila: Social justice...

As an Indonesian Christian as far as I live I have no problem with the tolerance in Java especially in Jakarta. I grew up in majority of Betawis and Sundanese friends that moslem hard liner but never found any problem with them moreover I found them very very tolerance. I mean I still found...

Do you really think Singapore can defence their tiny land should Indonesia invade them ? Singapore is not Israel. Even Israel will think twice or maybe 100 times should Indonesia located in Sinai. But invading Singapore is a vanity.

And look what happened to Sipadan and Ligitan

Use the sword wisely and it could be a lethal weapon and it will bring a lot of benefits for its master.

I once thought the Chinese are a smart people, but from all comments here I realize it's all just in my imagination. Please kindly enlightening me which one of Sun Tzu strategy that I never heard that China doing know. Adding more enemies is the most stupid thing that you can do.

No junior no senior here. It's only Indonesia right here. Just bring it on soldier.

It took my concern too since the several crashes happened again and again in last few years. There must be something isn't right at our air force management and they shouldn't deny it. Practice makes perfect, every great man learn from their mistakes. Hopefully this will be the last and it will...

Indeed beautiful. I really like the livery, simple yet beautiful.

Agree, I'm not saying we have to be aggressive mas bro :cheers: But in the end we live in the world of the possibilities. I'm just imagining the possibilities could happened. Including the worst scenario. But yeah, war is hell man.

Something that we all realized that ASEAN members never talk about military alliance, even just for 2-3 countries scale. Maybe with having this "common enemy" will trigger us to realize it. The most possible is Indonesia, Vietnam and the Philippines. I don't think the Malay and SG will join the...

Well, you don't get what you don't ask for. They have to finish what they started.

Swa Bhuwana Paksa

Agree, there is still possibility to us to get it, but I don't think we'll get it within 20-30 years ahead. Just look at how much time since the first version of F-15 revealed and suddenly they came with the offer to compete in our F-5 replacement bid. As long as the constellation between US and...

Realistically speaking 32 will be a win win for us and Russia. Since we need to increase the number of our fighter and on the other side Russia will ask larger amount of order in order to grant the TOT to us. But unfortunately, DPR-ly speaking it has to be 12 :coffee:

Thank you so much brother.