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    Ahmadis in Pakistan

    @tnt In many cases religion doesn't restrict anything or impose ban on anything. If in such cases ppl start making self imposed bans ... in the name of religion ... then it is a worst form of ignorance. Things which have not been restricted by religion ... do not need your permission.
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    Ahmadis in Pakistan

    You agree to this this ... but what you do not agree to is that that. Dear ... your "that that" are your self made conditions. What I said was that Prophet of Islam (PBUH) is Rehmat-al-lil-Alamin ... And you have accepted it subject to your self made (that that) conditions. You are a...
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    Ahmadis in Pakistan

    Here we are talking of Full Prophet ... NOT Prophet. What he might have declared himself in 1900s was prophet in maximum two ways: 1- that he claimed to be Promised Masih ... means Re-Arrival of Hazrat Issa .... since Hazrat Isa was a prophet so he should remain a prophet in re-arrival also...
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    Ahmadis in Pakistan

    In my honest assessment, a time shall come when dominants will openly declare the founder to be a full prophet. Qasoor Muslims ka ho ga k why they not originally accepted him just a masih while remaining within the framework of Islam.
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    Ahmadis in Pakistan

    ^ well no need to go to theology. Every answer lies in Arabic translation of a simple English sentence. "Bahadur Shah Zafar is the last of Mughal Emperors". And since theology shud be avoided ... so I am NOT presenting anything of early Islamic era when meaning was NOT last ...!!!
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    Ahmadis in Pakistan

    Well,,, your information of Ahmedy beliefs is totally wrong. Perhaps you listened Dr. Zakir Niak's misunderstandings about ahmedies which he usually presents. See Dr. Zakir Niak's following video ... you will see that you have taken your points from Naik and Naik got them from his own ignorant...
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    Ahmadis in Pakistan

    Yes Qadiyanism is divided into two camps. Difference is mainly what to do after the death of Mirza Ghulam Ahmed. Both camps believe him as promised Masih and Imam Mehdi. After the death of Mirza Ghulam Ahmed, dominant Ahmedy camp has organized itself under a Caliph (Khalifa-e-Waqt) and they...
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    Ahmadis in Pakistan

    Qadiyani is basically Muslim. But unfortunately, he cannot introduce himself as Muslim,,, because of Ordinance "X" :hitwall:
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    Ahmadis in Pakistan

    Yes you have raised relevant point. See ... word is "Khatam" ... It is used for hearts of Kafirs .... means here it is in NEGATIVE meanings. words are "Ala Qaloob" ... Muhar lagayi gayi,,, diloon PER Secondly same word used for Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) ... in POSITIVE meanings. words...
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    Ahmadis in Pakistan

    Yes there is no express differentiation. But there are only few Prophets who have bring their Shariah. Others have NOT. No one has said more than this...!!!
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    Ahmadis in Pakistan

    Arabic word for "Last" is "Akhir" and NOT "Khatam". According to Quran, Prophet of Islam (PBUH) is "Khatam-an-Nabiyeen" and NOT "Akhir-ul-Nabiyeen" I explain it with a simple example also. Take a sentence: "Bahadur Shah Zafar is the LAST of Mughal Emperors". Now take this sentence and...
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    Ahmadis in Pakistan

    I am sorry about CSS syllabus. I just confused "Deen Vs. Mazhab" with "Nabi Vs. Rasool". Deen Vs. Mazhab is part of CSS syllabus. And that syllabus is WRONG. Sura Kaferoon clearly states: "Lakum Deenokum Walyadeen". Means, tumhare liye (kafiron k liye) tumhara deen aur mere liye mera deen...
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    Ahmadis in Pakistan

    Rehmat-al-lil-Alamin is unconditional. Please do not impose your self made conditions. Similarly First Kalima is also unconditional. "La-illaha illallaho, Muhammadur RasoolAllah". It's meaning is "There is no worthy of worship except Allah, Muhhammad is messanger of Allah." So also please...
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    Ahmadis in Pakistan

    For Muslims, Prophet of Islam (PBUH) is no more "Rehmat-al-Lil-Alamin". For them, Prophet of Islam (PBUH) is only "Rehmat-al-lil-Muslameen". If a kafir feels pride in thinking himself Muslim,,, then so what...??? He is just receiving his part of Rehmet. Which is not specific to only Muslims....!!!
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    Ahmadis in Pakistan

    You are relying on only half information. Yes ... "Seal" can have two functions. (i) To authenticate and; (ii) to close. Ahmedies say more appropriate meaning is "To Authenticate" ... Actually they believe in this meaning. Your point is wrong because you are deliberately hiding one of the...
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    Ahmadis in Pakistan

    Actually they follow Quran. So your feelings are based on misinformation that you get.
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    Degree is degree, authentic or fake: Aslam Raisani

    Well, I am here to appreciate him. See my all previous posts. Regards!
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    Degree is degree, authentic or fake: Aslam Raisani

    I have already corrected my view on this issue in my second post where i quoted "The News" story. Thanks for valuable information however!
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    Degree is degree, authentic or fake: Aslam Raisani

    No ... I was wrong here. "The News" reports it in following words: Actually "fake" degree holders have not been expelled. Only those ppl having no degree at all have been expelled.:rofl: Aakhir "Degree degree hota hai; asli ho ya naqli...!"
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    Degree is degree, authentic or fake: Aslam Raisani

    And ... PIA is showing some extra efficiencies. What was the need to expel those crew members whose plane has not been crashed so far...??? A crew who successfully flies and lands passenger planes ... should be awarded honorary degrees instead of throwing them out for just fake degrees.
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