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a funny part on this military aviation section two threads please note this is not to flame but just an observation take it lightly 1. SU30MKI is BAD plane because americans said so ... although russians consider it to be a great bird still who russia their opinions are dead they are...

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landing on a motorway is when you dont have enough options so no need to brag about it in times of need every pro force can have many such capabilities read x- mans sir post above leave out the delusion there is no basis to measure pilot capability and narrow is a short sighted word...

sir yet the thread is still open that itself is not correct as i think

so 250 in 10 years more or less so 2015 is not correct considering that newer ones will have more associated developments

thread gone to dustbin with lca tejas vs jf-17

yes we agree to that whole of it

yes its really funny the whole idea of narrowing gap itself is funny

Friends and members i am starting this thread here to have a basic idea of ground realities as you can see pakistan is suffering a lot due to floods and many countries have extended a helping hand i know even china has offered enough aid and help i want to know the reality on ground on how...

no my friend you got it mistaken , what the thread starter is saying is satisfying the speculative numbers there are few facts but all whats will happen as of today there is no no 250 jf-17 neither there is j10b then where is the narrowness and yes today IAF has 120 odd su30mki does f-16+ jf17...

i suggest all members watch a movie the 9th company or 9 rota on youtube with english subtitles its about the last year of afgan -soviet invasion a good alternate watch from hollywood and a great movie

your argument that PAF was not battle capable in 1999 is more lame because whether capable or not if needed it had to come in imagine if IAF crossed the LOC and attacked advanced paf bases still it would sit and watch is it ? no the whole idea was PAF and pakistan itself had turned kargil...

please be kind enough to specify the lameness would be very kind of you sir

seriously i keep hearing this court case in every social affairs thread about water is it true is yes then why not ? why not cant anybody answer why there is no case still today yet people are saying it always

yes i just did how do you know ? pardon my poor english i am not oxford educated

yes even i want to see a court case i dont know why pakistani establishment is not doing it why doesnt some patriotic pakistani citizen do it on their behalf some sort of legal action there are many here on this forum

LOL to that argument because its not when you are battle capable but when needed even if you are not capable you have to take arms there is no time for battle that such and such day all this thread does is self satisfy in that that regard its doing good

the bold first line thanks for that now the point 1. should moderators not close such the threads which are 2 year old and has no basis for claims as you have said correctly it hasent been offered officially then why should a false piece of info be given out which has no basis. the current...

250 jf-17 good that number is good can you elaborate the yearly production rate and how long it will take to reach that number i think it will cross 2015 easily j10b thats 36 of them and when they get inducted you will have to retire some of your old birds too equivalent to that number...

mark i agree with you when it comes to a defensive approach that PAF wants to maintain even though you say 250 jf-17 and 36 odd j10 is good but production of 250 jf-17 does need a long time and so does the aspect of mastering the aircraft moreover you are ignoring the fact that PAF has to...