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Just saying, i am still confident in that we will see a block 4 JF-17, i have been saying so since 2021 and still believe as such, lets look at it logically: It's pretty clear that the PAF is seeking further indigenization of the JF-17, Block 3 received home-grown EW systems designed from...

https://www.globaldefensecorp.com/2023/07/19/uk-and-poland-to-develop-100km-range-camm-mr-anti-air-missile/ all is possible with $

"I believe that we got good deals on both Type54APs and Baburs. PN got 4 quite capable frigates at subsidized rates. China's shipbuilding is the greatest in the world. It has huge production and number of hulls it produces is astonishing so that large scale production eventually makes per...

its kind of misleading, janes claimed a camm kill at 60km but that was literally at the very edge of its engagement capabilities, against a very easy target too, not representative of actual real performance as above

g gids cant even double-check their marketing material, they only market the 'faceless' organizations like awc nescom etc. What we need is a Rosoboronexport type company to handle all export and marketing instead of everyone doing their own thing, but thats different to the above

we will need to get half of PDF in cabinet and holding high level positions before anything like that happens lol

Yeah but like we already have some things available, I.e TRM's, some airborne x band radar dev, surface radar development, esm systems, etc etc etc, so if we already have these basic fundamentals, the logical step would be seeing if they can be improved as opposed to reinvent, as then otherwise...

easy agree, or something like this would be nice too: Have 3/4 bodies under the MoD, each focusing on sea, air, and land, then a fourth interdomain body that would oversee the allocation of budgets and projects within each body, who would then decide whether pooling expertise of the bodies...

okay but i fear that NASTP is isolated from the preexisting state organizations, i could be totally wrong but there seems to be a divide, i.e you guys go this way, and we go this way. PAC/AvRID/NUST all have experience with radar comms ew etc for example but from the surface it seems they are...

iirc i recall seeing something similar in a RAF documentary about the F-35, where during a training flight of the F35B, they were unable to get it up and running, so they had to send the camera crew further away from the plane and get one of the yanks in to get it started to which he explained...

The Babur uses CAMM-ER. PN has standardized on the CAMM-ER and will use it on the F22P also. KSEW has the tech to build the F22P hulls, thats not the same as having IP rights for the design. Actually, the babur IS quite the upgrade over the F22P. Infact, im sure you've read the reports from the...

this was from the raf documentary right

because 054a's were subsidized, Babur was a FULL transfer of tech and IP rights!!!! Also, Tughrils are the last gen tech, not very well suited to swarm attacks, Babur OTOH will be able to defend itself way better in the case of a swarm, the only limitation is the number of missiles onboard. If...

no it isnt. Pakistan didnt just buy babur, it bought ALL of the associated IP. The design effectively belongs to us alongside the Turks now.

will take time to train crews and wrt faaz- https://pdf.defence.pk/threads/paf-revamped-air-defense-alert-system.451267/post-14457703

seems to be similar to JSOW-ER.

definitely, they will get some heavy use, though afaik they did not buy SD-10's so itll be limited to WVR engagements only probably vectored by ground control, will be nice to get some kills under the belt, even if they are only embraer 314's and maybe su25a

we own the IP rights to it, its effectively our design with the right to do whatever we please with it

ok

AvRID had a mini tubrojet program so i guess its probably part of that/some demonstrator