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  1. TankMan

    Mardan university student killed over alleged blasphemy: police

    Overall, I agree with many of your points, but it appears you have a different definition of secularism than I do. Yes, that is true - but they have also abandoned their religion altogether. The dominant view in the West today is that religion causes violence, which is why we need to remove it...
  2. TankMan

    قہر برپا کیا تم نے نبیﷺکا نام لے کر

    I agree with this fully, there should be a penalty for insulting religious sentiments of any religious group, similar to hate-speech laws in other parts of the world. The Pakistan Penal code is supposed to have this in it, but I don't think it's enforced properly; 298 Uttering of any word or...
  3. TankMan

    Mardan university student killed over alleged blasphemy: police

    Interest is a matter of economic policy, not something personal. If 99% of the population is against interest, the country should have policies that reflect that. Yeah - the state will be 'favouring' the religious lot because the overwhelming majority is religious. But it would also make sure...
  4. TankMan

    قہر برپا کیا تم نے نبیﷺکا نام لے کر

    Sure, yeah, you're right. I know very well the process of gathering and authenticating Hadith, and people like Imam Bukhari were definitely very careful and meticulous in their approach when they were compiling the hadith. We must be equally careful when interpreting them. Do you not agree...
  5. TankMan

    قہر برپا کیا تم نے نبیﷺکا نام لے کر

    Abu Rafi was a warmonger who tried to incite violence against the Muslims and tried to rally several tribes against the Prophet. "Abu Rafi` used to hurt Allah’s Messenger and help his enemies against him ..." (Sahih al-Bukhari volume 5, Book 59, Hadith 371) I've already told you about Ka'ab...
  6. TankMan

    قہر برپا کیا تم نے نبیﷺکا نام لے کر

    Murder and Blasphemy were considered same by everyone? Who? Where? When? Please go read the verses from the Qur'an I posted and tell me why you keep denying them.
  7. TankMan

    قہر برپا کیا تم نے نبیﷺکا نام لے کر

    Really? So you're saying Rasool (s.a.w) was fine with attempted murder but poetry is too far? Did you read that article I referred to? Here it is again, with important parts highlighted: Qur'an says 'forgive them' and 'be patient'. The laws say 'kill them'. How is that not a contradiction?
  8. TankMan

    قہر برپا کیا تم نے نبیﷺکا نام لے کر

    The law is totally un-Islamic and is not in the constitution. It is in the penal code and based on British Imperial law. Yes, but laws found outside the Qur'an must not contradict the Qur'an. If the Qur'an says 'be patient' and 'forgive them', you can not use Hadith or other sources to develop...
  9. TankMan

    قہر برپا کیا تم نے نبیﷺکا نام لے کر

    Here's the English version of the first one; Ka'ab bin al-Ashraf was killed for trying to murder the Holy Prophet (s.a.w) and for trying to raise armed opposition to the Muslims in wartime, which is treason. Blasphemy was not his only crime. Similarly, Abu Rafi was responsible for rallying...
  10. TankMan

    قہر برپا کیا تم نے نبیﷺکا نام لے کر

    Right - what was his name? Where is it mentioned? Is it in the Qur'an? If it's not in the Qur'an, we can't use that one incident to derive legal rules when there are dozens upon dozens of incidents where blasphemers were forgiven. Why is this one incident more important than all the other...
  11. TankMan

    10 defence industry programs Pakistan should pursue (But it isn't)

    One of the F-22P Zulfiqar-Class frigates was made in Pakistan, KSEW. It's not much, but it's a start, the F-22Ps are decent boats. We'll need to look at developing larger ships with modern equipment in the future, Destroyers at least are necessary for a well-equipped navy. Nothing wrong with...
  12. TankMan

    Indian troops shell IOK college, wound 50 students

    Surely the point of re-polling was that more people would come to vote than the first time. It's almost as if the Kashmiris don't trust Indian security forces...
  13. TankMan

    Indian troops shell IOK college, wound 50 students

    The re-polling was completely incident free and still no one came to vote. http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/srinagar-by-election-only-2-02-voter-turnout-recorded-after-repolling-in-kashmir/story-3lCTvA4P1sYB4eXo4EeRjM.html
  14. TankMan

    Indian troops shell IOK college, wound 50 students

    All the soldiers deployed in Nagaland and Assam would like to have a word with you. Yeah, that's pretty obvious. Why officially hide behind Secularism then? To get approval from the West?
  15. TankMan

    Indian troops shell IOK college, wound 50 students

    I said militant groups. As in, "Islamic fundamentalist" militant groups. What do you think happens when you kill people's families? Get your head out of your backside and look at what you're advocating for. RSS is effectively a Hindu extremist militant group. This kind of thinking will rip...
  16. TankMan

    Indian troops shell IOK college, wound 50 students

    The civilian population was evacuated before Zarb-e-Azb.
  17. TankMan

    Learn from Donald Trump, bomb Pakistan to free Kulbhushan Jadhav

    Assange never actually said that, it's a lie. http://www.ndtv.com/india-news/julian-assange-never-said-narendra-modi-is-incorruptible-wikileaks-firm-clarification-554301 And Modi has actually been leaning very much towards aligning India with the US, much to Putin's dismay. For Indians;
  18. TankMan

    Indian troops shell IOK college, wound 50 students

    So, genocide. You want to genocide the Kashmiris. Because that's what it's called when you start dropping MOABs on civilian populations. You know, that's a great way to make sure more and more people join militant groups.
  19. TankMan

    قہر برپا کیا تم نے نبیﷺکا نام لے کر

    All those examples are of people who were responsible for many other crimes except blasphemy, including attempting to kill and attack Muslims. All the other blasphemers were spared. If blasphemy was punishable by death; what about the bedouin who urinated infront of the Prophet, what about the...
  20. TankMan

    French Presidential and Legislative Elections 2017-News and Updates

    True, but that is very difficult to explain to people on the internet without triggering a flamewar and an assault by the Internet Atheist Brigade No, not really. The idea isn't that "everyone gets paid equally". That is one of those misconceptions about Communism. Let me explain: in...
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