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  1. TankMan

    PTI's desperate campaign for "DAWN" poll

    So you mean ''MQM is doing politics by protecting criminals because MQM is run by criminals''. No, he is threatening to start a war if his criminal friends aren't allowed to conduct criminal activities. That is what he said and what he means, no matter how you sugarcoat it. How does it not...
  2. TankMan

    Islam and punishment

    No need for the taunts. I have understood, discussed, dissected, and proposed solutions to, this issue in my previous posts. They wish to be governed by Sharia but are confused as to what exactly it entails. It's simple: sit down and discuss what it is, with the help of religious texts and...
  3. TankMan

    Islam and punishment

    Which evidence? There is no 'evidence' present when we are discussing possibilities, proposals, solutions and ideas. Simply because something hasn't happened for a period of time doesn't mean it never will. ''Impose its will'' is a very loose term. By your definition, the majority voting for a...
  4. TankMan

    PTI's desperate campaign for "DAWN" poll

    There is a big difference in disclosing that people have been arrested and disclosing the details of the whole case and why they have been arrested. You were talking about retaliation and I was talking about resistance and non-cooperation. No, there would be no retaliation if MQM was...
  5. TankMan

    Islam and punishment

    All my previous posts detail what makes me think it can happen now. It was ''not possible'' to implement Democracy in Europe for an entire millennia after the Ancient Greeks - what made the Europeans think it could've been implemented in the 1700s if the last time they saw it was in the BC...
  6. TankMan

    Islam and punishment

    I already replied to that: At this point you're proving that you are not at all interested in actual debate but want to stubbornly forward your own point of view and agenda and are constantly using strawman arguments to do so. I never said ''force a unified interpretation.'' What I said...
  7. TankMan

    Nawaz again backstabbed Pak Military at vital moment and venue !

    Pakistan Defence Forum Management Boards Take it up with them. If Imran Khan was poor, people would still prefer he become PM. This isn't a rich and poor issue. It's about who people decide to give value. Often, people decide to give the rich value simply because of their wealth and influence...
  8. TankMan

    PTI's desperate campaign for "DAWN" poll

    The whole point of keeping things undisclosed is that the public wouldn't know about it. How would you know that they haven't kept things other than their reasons undisclosed? My dear Senior Member, you should know that you can't just decide to use words for things other than their meanings...
  9. TankMan

    Islam and punishment

    It is the citizens' right to be governed the way they want to, is it not? Then, if the majority of citizens want to be governed according to their religion, what's the problem? Why do they not have that right? As long as the religion they are being governed according to provides sufficient...
  10. TankMan

    PTI's desperate campaign for "DAWN" poll

    How can I apply them if we're assuming that those reasons don't exist in these cases? You're stumbling over your own, or maybe it's @Patriots ' argument. Is that supposed to be a typical MQM threat? And how is making an inflammatory telephonic khitab considered ''communications''? MQM can use...
  11. TankMan

    Islam and punishment

    That would be the first step towards a solution. The intricacies of theology can be handled easily, the intricacies of dishonesty can not. There will obviously be resistance from political mullahs, extremists and outlying sects like the Ahmadis, but as long as the mainstream scholars are fine...
  12. TankMan

    PTI's desperate campaign for "DAWN" poll

    The exact same argument as ''the Rangers kept Aamir Khan for 90 days only because he was MQM''. They had reasons, which are not publicly available. Any argument on that is purely speculation. Every single time there is any action taken against elements within MQM, Altaf Bhai threatens to raise...
  13. TankMan

    Islam and punishment

    Exactly. The peripheral elements have assumed too much importance. The solution to this is not something simple that can be done by a few people. It requires that people stop following Mullahs who argue religion for the sake of politics, and requires a few honest scholars to gain public...
  14. TankMan

    PTI's desperate campaign for "DAWN" poll

    That means nothing. Anyone can be part of the 'social media team'. It's not official. The same reason you are. Did you read your own post, the one with the tweets? Nowhere did they say ''let's have multiple votes''. Unless you can prove that PTI supporters voted multiple times, your entire...
  15. TankMan

    Islam and punishment

    No, @Norwegian . No reformation of Islam is needed. Only a reformation of how we look at it. Why do we consider Political Mullahs' opinions, even those that clearly go against Islamic texts and principles, to be part of Islam itself? Since when did they become parts of Islam? They aren't and...
  16. TankMan

    PTI's desperate campaign for "DAWN" poll

    Eleven criminals were charged. There was no evidence against the president so he was released. Rangers releases pictures of arrested suspects from Sunni Tehreek center | Pakistan | Dunya News ''Qadri said, The PST believes in complete cooperation with the the law enforcement agencies." Why...
  17. TankMan

    Nawaz again backstabbed Pak Military at vital moment and venue !

    You have, if those negative ratings are any indication. Yet your Avatar is a picture used to character-assassinate Imran Khan himself and not any of his political partners. Go waste someone else's time.
  18. TankMan

    PTI's desperate campaign for "DAWN" poll

    The PPP is crying of victimization too. Remember Zardari's speech? Yes, the Sindh Govt. will be brought to justice. No. I'll be blunt: you MQM liars and propagandists need to try harder. Rangers raid Sunni Tehreek headquarters in Karachi | PAKISTAN - geo.tv 92 News HD Rangers' raids in...
  19. TankMan

    PTI's desperate campaign for "DAWN" poll

    Why is this thread still open? The guy who tweeted in the OP is not a member of PTI, or any other political party, and what's wrong if he's telling people on twitter to vote on a Dawn poll? He's not doing anything wrong by telling people to vote. That's actually how polls are supposed to work...
  20. TankMan

    Islam and punishment

    The general idea behind Islamic punishments was always to deter crimes. Punishments were to be kept severe so as to show how severe the crimes were, and to deter people from committing them. They weren't intended to be widespread - punishments are supposed to be rare. So if the Ottomans punished...
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