After the war in Ukraine, presuming the Russian threat dies down a little, this might be used to put pressure on Turkey but I think it's too early to tell.
And the economic leverage they have on Turkey is much greater than the military threat they pose. So why bother?
Just because "they said it" doesn't mean they could without us making a mistake.
I explained Russia in an earlier post. Things were very different before Crimea and MUCH more diffeerent during Yeltsin era. Putin's belligerent stance caused the shift.
Turkey being a NATO member and not being a...
I don't support any, Erdoğan is the most corrupt of them all but there aren't any much better alternatives. CHP is just as corrupt, MHP is utterly braindead and İYİ party is on the brink of dissolving due to infighting.
Or a heavy cruiser like the Original TCG Yavuz Battlecruiser
How could we turn this enormous part of Turkish history into scrap metal, still boggles my mind.
We boast spirituality but we're a very materialistic nation.
You want us to throw AMRAAMs to the trash ? :cheesy:
a plane that can only fire chinese weapons would be worse than useless, it would be detrimental.
Datalink is even more important. What good is a fighter that can't get data from E7 Peace Eagle?
We can't spend our limited money and...
They are extremely stringy, they haggle with everything, make the payments late and sometimes not at all just very very low profits working with them.
Anybody who trades with UK customers tell me that they make payments on time, don't haggle and in general great profits are made.
IF we instead...
1) I'm not confident, but we really need it and Turkish government correctly deduced what I said almost 4 years ago that it's the only option.
2) KF21 isn't a mature product that we can buy yet. We would have to wait, and that defeats the whole purpose. Turkey S. Korea partnership was...
You have to take your mind out of this east vs. west simplistic understanding of the world, we're not living in lord of the rings. The world is changing.
If we want a multi-polar world we have to believe in it ourselves first.
I still remember how just a couple of years ago Turkish economy almost crashed because Saudis boycotted Turkish goods. These people are TERRIBLE business partners. I have friends that trade with them. Iran is even worse. UAE sponsored a coup d'etat in Turkey. We have no friends other than...
So why did Poland buy the TB2? Why did Serbia want it? Why are Japan and UK looking into it?
Because of our belligerent rhetoric and poor image
For 20 years we've had the most pro-arab anti-west leader ever and look at the results.
Look, I have nothing against "muslim states" but most of them hate us and those that don't hate us don't have any money either.
Kaan has different strengths vs. F35, and with the quality we're going for, any state in the world, not just muslim states will want it.
It all depends on our...
No, it's the exact opposite. If we develop these relations further we might sell TFX Kaan to UK in not so distant future.
Partnership on a future Sixth gen. aircraft is already being talked about. This will reduce our dependency on the US immensely.
Ümit Özdağ was the one who sent a delegation to Syria headed by Şükrü Sina Gürel to talk to Bashar al-Asad in order to normalize relations. When he said he would meet al-Asad himself, it was blocked by the government. Give credit where credit is due, Özdağ will talk to you like a man instead of...
a Turkish leader that dislikes arabs and doesn't want to get involved with them would be much better for you than one that really loves the arabs and wants to put his nose into your business.
Why on earth are we involved in the internal affairs of Egypt? Just do your business and shut up amirite?
I remember back in the day, there were Eurofighter ads in defence magazines, they were aggressively marketing it to Turkey, offering to share full source codes lol