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Did Israel become Christian and Atheist to get all this support from America and Europe? :) take off these horse blinkers I don't know how you can become Christian and Atheist at the same time :cheesy: but that's besides the point lol

Improve our position in NATO and Europe, Make ourselves more valuable. Improve relations with everyone. Organize the Turks living in Europe into a powerful diaspora, etc. There are lots of things to be done. We should take some lessons from Russian propaganda, they really worked hard on RT...

You realize we're still at odds with Egypt in Libya right? There's a slight normalization of relations but they still don't support our theses in mediterranean. And Algeria, they are going for a weird mix of german and chinese vessels and their submarine force consists of six kilos. Apart...

Otokar keeps doing some amazing work on alternative fuels.

And Joint exercises continue! Azerbaijani commandos fast-roping down a Turkish Navy seahawk helicopter in preparpation for another exercise.

I'm impressed Indian members know what a toilet is. Did you guys find out about it over the internet or do you see it in films?

you mean it will talk to a secure, encrypted system running Link-16? Why don't you post that news here, I'll check it out

Whatever it is, it cannot be compatible with our systems.

Political implications aside, it really is useless. No Link 16, no Link 22, can't fire ANY weapons we have, engine is a whole another can of worms. It is as good as scrap metal. If china offered J-20, the answer would still be the same. Money and effort spent on integrating it would be much...

Why don't you take that chinese aircraft and shove it up your arse instead? wanker

More fuel, more engine, more armor, more everything. Maybe extra crew member to operate a remote controlled .50 cal, maybe something else. You already have a logistics chain that's configured for M1 Abrams so why not?

IF you are right we'll see an autoloading turret on M1A3.

That's Turkey's chronic inability to explain itself, there are a billion films about the holocaust but nothing about what Turkey suffered during the decades of terrorism. Add to that a power hungry president that doesn't respect the law (his own words) doesn't even speak English and the...

Please no. Sounds like a pointless waste of money to me, we don't have much trade with them other than cocaine.

That's an entirely different matter.

Forced... lol Nobody can force Turkey to do anything.

You're talking about Trump era and calling me "not up to date" ? Ukraine war changed everything. The idea of an EU independent of USA has died on the outskirts of Kiev. Merkel is gone, things have changed.

@LeGenD what the fck is this? :cheesy: https://pdf.defence.pk/media/jual-obat-aborsi-di-jakarta-wa-087711378778-obat-penggugur-kandungan-cytotec.74714/ :lol...

It doesn't really matter, arm launcher or vertical launcher, they both have ESSM. You know Barbaros class doesn't have anything other than ESSM right? So I don't think that matters. Although we could upgrade Yavuz class with MIDLAS once we have Siper in sufficient numbers.

NATO will not be dismantled in our lifetimes, it will grow instead. No need to discuss things that's never going to happen.