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    For All America Lovers!!!

    Ignorance of the crowd at it's best. And they're very flexible with the morals they espouse. When they were overrunning the place, killing the natives who lived there, they were all for "multi-culturalism", allowing new cultures to "blend in"(butcher) with the old. Now, when it suites them...
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    Pilot Stays Calm During Engine Failure -On Board Camera

    No the pilot's likely British. He's named "Andy Wilson", flying somewhere over the UK. Says that few secs into the vid. Seemed like an awfully short landing, just struck the ground and two seconds in the plane abruptly stops. Maybe they fast-forwarded it in the vid.
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    The collapse of secular India

    Yes. Tell it to these people: http://www.defence.pk/forums/kashmir-war/93574-gunmen-open-fire-baramulla-2-girls-injured.html
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    Pakistan's Nuclear Bayonet.

    Lets look at the "extremist takeover" thing in perspective. All of the eight nuclear weapon states on the planet use their arsenal as a deterant - to prevent another neighboring nuclear state to hold them hostage on key issues, and essentially ensure MAD - mutually assured distruction, if...
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    Hi Members, A Question put up by "Israel in Pakistan"a page on facebook

    There is alot of disinformation regarding this episode of history, there have been many attempts to revise history and quiet often facts get omitted. I don't know alot, but I'll share what I do know. The partition plan for Palestine was rejected because that had been a Muslim majority area...
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    Another New Chinese Helicopter Testing

    How is this not new - the aircraft was introduced in the last decade, and this seems to be an improved variant produced specifically for China.
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    China sends two planes to evacuate its citizens from Egypt

    I wonder what sort of plane China sent
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    The myth of ideological frontiers

    Some pertinent points in this article are rather misleading. Islam itself is pluralistic and inclusive, the fact that Quaid-e-Azam wanted such a state does not negate that he wanted it to be found on Islamic values. When Quaid-e-Azam was asked about Pakistan's "manshoor"(Ideology -...
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    45 F-16 fighter jets being upgraded in Turkey: Air Chief

    The US originally offered us 60 MLU upgrade packages, for the 32 remaining F-16s in service, and the 28 they were slated to deliver. Now it seems like we only get 45. They screw us on everything.. Navy requested six OHP frigates, they sell one, and even that's delivery is suspect, having...
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    U.S. man gets 4 years for trying to spy for China

    Back in the Cold War days, the US consistently denied that it was flying spy planes over the USSR. When that U2 got shot, Khruchev played a clever game - he didn't let the US know that they'd captured the pilot alive and hence, had irrefutable evidence that the US was lying. So the US went on...
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    Transfer to PAF

    I hope @vip_hossam checks back on this forum sometime. In our twitter age with people getting overwhelming replies instantly, people not familiar with the way forums work sometimes get surprised when they don't see replies and discussions going on instantly after they type in their message, like...
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    JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 4]

    The WS-13 is definitely not a clone of the RD-33. The engine's called WS-13 "Tianshan" which literally means "celestial mountains" and is the name of this mountain range in China.That was also the name given to an earlier engine project, called the Tianshan-21. There are little bits of...
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    JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 4]

    You're probably right, the WS-10 had problems such as these but the WS-10 variant is (half a decade)old news now. Even the improved WS-10A now has subsequent derivatives under development for specific tasks like short-takeoff on the navalized J-10. The production WS-10A model and it's...
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    Transfer to PAF

    Incidently, the PAF is slated to increase it's JF-17 fleet and new pilots should be very welcome. The pilot gap seems like it's being filled partially, by F-16 pilots transferring over. But as quiet a few squadrons of JF-17 are supposed to be inducted(current aim seems to be 250 aircraft, 18...
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    Positive side to pakistan's refusal to hit militant haven

    The US policy is clearly in shambles. They hardly make any sense at all anymore. For instance, back in 2001 and 02 the Afghan leadership wasn't sitting in Waziristan when the US was rolling through Afghanistan and controlled most of the area(even the US didn't claim the Afghan resistance had...
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    Was the FC-20 ever officially confirmed to be the J-10 (any variant)?

    In the end, time will tell. *Every* Chinese-manufactured plane fielded by Pakistan has had the same product number used in the Chinese one. Perhaps the strategy was to mention "FC-20" and give the Indians a little anxiety over any unfortunate adventures that they might be anticipating to pull...
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    Why are Pakistanis afraid of democracy?

    So now I'm a coward and am indecisive. Well, thanks, I guess. You've never met me, have no idea who I might or might not be, so logically any commentary you pass on me personally, would inevitably be inaccurate. The discussion was on whether LOGICALLY, democracy is or isn't a flawed system of...
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    Why are Pakistanis afraid of democracy?

    @Gambit Theoretically, an informed populace could create a functional democratic style of governance. Practically, people who actually have the knowledge, integrity, experience, and credentials to make good decisions tend to be vastly outnumbered by the majority that is unsophisticated, and...
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    Why are Pakistanis afraid of democracy?

    The Nordic countries certainly seem to work well, but my point was, that it seems to be a function of whether the poplace is informed&active, not whether the place is a democracy or not. Many of these European countries functioned well under kingships, and some don't function that well despite...
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    Why are Pakistanis afraid of democracy?

    @Gambit Democracy has it's flaws, if you read up on it's history, it seems to have failed every time. I personally found it very facinating reading about what the US founding fathers had to say about it - they abhored democracy, even though the memory of being under the food of a tyrannical...
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