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    JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 4]

    Mighty strange little panther they've got on the tail and the fuel-pod. I'm not sure if it's 'shopped, or if this is something new the PAF's going for. I don't have to like it simply because someone in the PAF did it. Honestly, if this is real, I hope they change to a different symbol, perhaps...
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    “Minority Islam” in Muslim Majority Bangladesh: The Violent Road

    @HR Thank you for the interesting analysis. While it is understandable why you may feel that secularism/atheism is the way to progress and religion is illogical(invisible Gods, weird practics... ), I must disagree with you there. I'm a Muslim, only because there's alot of scientific evidence...
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    “Minority Islam” in Muslim Majority Bangladesh: The Violent Road

    Secularism has nothing to do with success. Success, in history, goes around in turns. All the countries in Europe were deplorable, unclean, frequent plague due to a complete lack of hygene, when the countries in yellow were leading the world in knowledge and wisdom. Read the history of...
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    China wants SAARC plus One arrangement (SAARC+1)

    Sounds like a pretty good move. China's support would help the small countries from being overwhelmed under India's domineering foreign policy. Maybe India should quit in protest - would make SAARC one genuine India-bashing group. Can also help prevent India from ganging up on any one country...
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    Countering PTI: Nawaz promises tit-for-tat rally at Minar-e-Pakistan

    So I hope this means Nawaz is finally going to move some of that $$$ stashed abroad from the Hudaibia Paper Mills affair, in order to fund some more rallies? I'm sure the "overseas supporters" will be very generous, especially given how much of Nawaz's wealth is abroad in his immediate family's...
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    JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 4]

    I'm not sure why this C++ programming debate has been lingering on for so long. Even though the JF-17 is a lightweight aircraft, it incorporates many of the latest trends and features of aeronautical design, like the DSI, large MFDs instead of dials(which even the vaunted SU-27 Indian export...
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    Imran Khan is 'American slave' : TTP

    The TTP are funded and supplied by the US - the millions of $$$, food rations, weapons supplies that they use do not fall from the sky. The US clearly wants Pakistan bogged down in Waziristan(North and South). These fake "taliban" guys are just like Al-CIAda, they always show up wherever the US...
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    JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 4]

    Is it me, or does the PAF seem more secretive about the JFT nowadays? One thing that illustrates this is the difference between the original JF-17's info, and the Block-II specs which are much harder to come by. Even @pshamim, a senior on this forum who actually served in the PAF for decades...
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    JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 4]

    According to Alan Warnes, the JFT's already been in DACT exercises(Dissimilar Air Combat Training) against the Eurofighter. Says more details next week, I'm guessing maybe the next AFM issue... Twitter Twitter Unbelievably awesome news. Would the seniors here be able to shed any light on this?
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    The curious case of Indian Punjabis

    There are people who believe the world is flat and the moon is made of cheese. You may believe whatever you choose to believe. While sources like the BBC might not appear very legitimate to you, especially when they poke holes in India's offical narrative of the Mumbai incident, the whole world...
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    The curious case of Indian Punjabis

    @SH You are low on facts, high on... something else. We were talking about Mumbai, and I posted many links. India was found faking the terrorist list it was flaunting to embarrass Pakistan. Many of the people India was claiming were responsible for conducting the Mumbai attacks, had already been...
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    The curious case of Indian Punjabis

    Nope. Mumbai was a false-flag operation India staged, to diplomatically corner Pakistan at a time when Pakistan was already under alot of International pressure. They also did this after 9/11, staging some fake attack on the parliament and bringing the indo army to the border, to pressure...
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    Israel is Beating the war drums Again

    You should read before commenting. The attack was to be coordinated with India, with aircraft taking off from Indian bases. This incident is widely known, with many official sources. The head of the ISI at the time, Gen. Hameed Gul, is also on record stating that a retaliatory strike on...
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    "Netanyahu is a liar"--Nicholas Sarkozy

    I wonder how these comments will effect Sarkozy's political future. I don't about France, but Jewish political lobbying is awfully strong in the US, they fund everything from presidential elections, down to huge contributions in congressional and even senate elections. I remember Clinton going...
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    Israel is Beating the war drums Again

    I doubt if Israel will attack. It always uses subterfuge and deceit to reach it's objectives, not so good when the adversary is forewarned, alert and ready. Case in point: Israel attempt at Kahuta after Osirak - Kahuta was Pakistan's primary nuclear weapons development complex back in the 80's...
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    Ukrainian AI-222-25F engine may replace Russian RD-93 in JF-17 jets

    South African French-origin Mirages flew with Russian-origin engines. Atleast in Ukraine's case, the engine vendor and aircraft manufacturer would closely collaborate - for the South Africans, integrating the Russian engine was harder. F-14s, F-15s, F-16s all have had different types of...
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    Ukrainian AI-222-25F engine may replace Russian RD-93 in JF-17 jets

    I know injuns feel compelled to rain on Pakistan's parade in every forum post, but do you really have to be such a 'tard? RD-33's full thrust with afterburners is 18,285 lbf. The engine the Ukrainians are developing, is rated at 22,000 ibf according to that AIN article. That is more than 20%...
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    Israel is Beating the war drums Again

    I think you need to update your knowledge - Israel has been involved in plenty of wars since the 60's, and they haven't done so well in all of them. In '73 for example, Israel lost of aircraft to Egyptian SAMs, it shook them enough to go for a truce. Also, much more recently, in the Lebanon war...
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    Turkish Song song by Pakistani Pashtun girl

    Even though the Turkish script got Latinized(like "Roman Urdu" in Pakistan), it still sounds like a distinctly Central Asian language. Even seems to have phonetic similarities to Pushto.
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    Explosions rock China, seven killed, 200 injured

    China should investigate who aids and abets these terrorists. We in Pakistan have many many attacks like these, never had 'em before the US came to Afghanistan though. Now, the "terrorists" claim to be Muslims but bomb mosques, and kill any Muslim clergymen who condemn their activities as...
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