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    Indonesia to buy 24 refurbished US F-16 fighters

    Yes, it has only been claimed that the JF-17 exceeds the F-16 in some areas. BVR-engagement range(with slightly older AIM-120 AMRAAMs that most countries have, not the AIM-120Ds that are being developed), manouverability, Radar Cross-Section are areas where the JF-17 exceeds the F-16. You...
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    Indonesia to buy 24 refurbished US F-16 fighters

    Man learn a thing or two. Who said anything about F-16s not being so lethal, or junk? Have you been smoking the cheap ganja again? Yes. Unlike you, real professions were used. If you're not well-read, it's not our fault. Indians like to believe alot of fairytales (especially from the Bharat...
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    India abstains from Saudi-sponsored resolution aimed at Iran

    This Saudi-Iranian bickering is a legacy of our decline. An imminent religious scholar once said that when knowledge/wisdom diminishes, differences and problems crop up. When Muslims aren't "zawaal-pazir"(stuck in decline), differences cease to be problems, and we can follow the true spirit of...
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    Indonesia to buy 24 refurbished US F-16 fighters

    F-16 is a three-decade old platform(just like Su-30s and MiG-29), while it's been modernized significantly, it's basic structure and airframe is still the same. JF-17 is just at the beginning of it's life, and is liable to be upgraded throughout it's service-life. On some things like Beyond...
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    Pakistani Pakhtuns tired of Afghan immigrants

    We should not be cruel on our Afghan brothers. If we force them to return now, all we'll be doing is giving Uncle Sam more target practice. As the US/NATO fails to perform on the ground, they tend to drop "daisy cutters" on civilians and then claim to have killed alot of "taliban".
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    Tejas induction only by mid-2014

    Look man, whatever makes makes you happy.. This thread is about the Tejas however. Mid-2014 is not very long, we might get to see squadrons of this aircraft in IAF service. It would be very nice to see those MiG-21s phased out of service, they've served the IAF for decades now. It's time for...
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    First preference is always India, second China : Srilankan President

    It's nice that China is understanding and sympathetic towards Sri Lanka's geo-political problems. India is a very manipulative and cunning bully, while they cannot get bigger nuclear-armed countries like China and Pakistan under thumb, our smaller neighbors have to face the worst brunt of...
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    India abstains from Saudi-sponsored resolution aimed at Iran

    @JAT What I stated was a simple fact, it's logical and self-evident. I'm very surprised at the way many Indians blindly believe the state media on everything, most people around the world understand that state media is the government's propaganda mouthpiece everywhere around the world. These...
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    We need a leader like him!

    I admire that Imran Khan is a brave man. Nawaz Sharif and Zardari both make speeches from behind thick bullet-proof glass, standing over a kilometer away from the people. I guess they're afraid of the people because of the things these people do and try to hide. There were people right up to...
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    Tejas induction only by mid-2014

    Like I said... this thread is down the gutter. Mainly because Indians are pulling at straws. India can keep it's MiGs, their 1000-crashes accomplishment is unique, and we do not want to take that away from them. JF17 has entered service after clearing all the stages India is going through...
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    India abstains from Saudi-sponsored resolution aimed at Iran

    There seem to be alot of Muslim countries abstaining as well. The list of countries in favor of this is larger, because most of Europe and MOST western countries voted in favor of this. I think you people need to be astute and take a proper look before commenting. Zardari is hardly an Indian...
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    Tejas induction only by mid-2014

    This thread has totally gone down the gutter. It is a difficult position to be in, for IAF fans, because of these delays, and I can sympathize with that. I think it's a positive thing that they're taking the time to thoroughly iron out all issues. The alternate would be for DRDO/HAL to rush...
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    Indonesia to buy 24 refurbished US F-16 fighters

    Our JF17s could have delivered better performance, at a lesser cost. Just look at the amazing response it has gotten at the recent Dubai 2011 airshow. Western airshow commentators were talking about the aircraft's remarkable manouverability and the diverse range of weaponry that has already been...
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    PLA troops arrived in Pakistan for YouYi 2011 drill

    Well, Chinese diplomats also said Pakistan is China's "Israel", when US officials were frustrated over China's supporting Pakistan so much, at a time when US is tryingto sabotage it. Obviously Pakistan is against this terrorism in China, and Pakistan itself is a huge victim of terrorism. We...
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    Chinese Navy (PLAN) News & Discussions

    The JL-9 sure looks good with the DSI inlet. I have a question about this aircraft. Now that it has been announced that China is procuring 250 engines(Ukrainian AI-222) for the L-15 jet, does that imply that the L-15 will be China's main advanced trainer and JL-9 has no prospects? It wouldn't...
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    Dubai Airshow 2011

    @Mani2020 Fleet-capability seems to be a very high priority for the PAF rightnow, they're focusing on building their JF17 numbers up. You should read AFM's ~20 page suplement on the JF17, PAF officers talked about the WS-13A engine being ready within five years(one officer said it could even be...
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    @Windjammer Looks like no JF17 vs EFT yet, might happen next year though. Seems there was a...

    @Windjammer Looks like no JF17 vs EFT yet, might happen next year though. Seems there was a possibility of this occuring at the Dubai airshow(Alan Warnes wrote that we'll find out "next week", the week before the airshow) but apparently didn't. He tweeted that it didn't happen, and that it...
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    Dubai Airshow 2011

    @MastanKhan That is a very subjective and debatable opinion. Turkey for one, has never been colonized and proudly holds on to it's own language, most Turks don't even speak English, and they're further ahead of us in many areas. A large number of other countries like Germany, France, Sweden...
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    Dubai Airshow 2011

    What's next for JF17 after the Dubai Airshow? I know we have Farnborrough 2012, but any other airshows confirmed by the PAF? Out of the three we've had so far(Farn 2010, Izmir, Zhuhai), Dubai has been the most informative. I also seems like this generated the most amount of interest among...
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    Dubai Airshow 2011

    Hasnain my friend, you have some interesting&peculiar information sources. The possibility that Israeli cadets would come to Pakistan is really very strange. Our Arab friends would react very strongly, and Israel's cadets(are you talking about flight cadets or army or flight cadets what... )...
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