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Well, that is typical Indians, and that is why they have been ranked lower. Since instead of working harder to go up, they constantly are thinking and working harder to pull others down. It appears this methodology does not work in science as per this scientific analysis.

Well, the experts at SCImago, do not agree with you one bit. They have put out their analysis. You have any beef, go and take it up with them. Something tells me that they would not care at all about some let puller's view either. I trust SCImago rather your rants.

Only if these guys could understood. But their behavior is far from gentlemanship and science spirit. That is really shameful.

With China around, that would not be possible. With this Indian leg pulling attitude, it seems to me that they are going be certainly above India even in 2020. Grow up.

That is the sad reality, Aryan Bhai. Why cant they grow up? Why cant they appreciate? Just look at here. The Chinese guy comes in congratulates and encourages all, while admitting that China is under performing and all downplaying their number one position. And here we go, these guys come in and...

Again it is certainly possible. 2011 data is not yet out. But the Scopus shows that Iran has moved up two ranks from 19th in 2010 to 17th in 2011. All they have to do is move up ranks and reach 4th position. Moving up two ranks each year would mean they would be at 3rd position in 2018. This...

So then blame your government rather coming here and blaming the scientific analysis by SCImago and attacking China and Iran for being above you.

First get your data right. It is not five years. It is seven, unless India is already living in 2013. The 25,000 figure is also wrong. In 2010, they had some 27,744. From 2010 to 2018, it is going to be 8 years and not 5. So if you want to talk about science first learn to be accurate. As I...

It is all about self belief and confidence. When you basically regard yourself below the white man, then you can never exceed him in capabilities. Chinese and Iranians have already grown out of their complexes of slavery. Indians are yet to grow and believe that it is possible to be better than...

Well, they have a large university population and expanding. Beside that they are pouring in an increasing amount of money to research. In 2010, only 0.7% of Iran's GDP had gone to R&D and they are increasing that to 4%. So it is not impossible. All they have to do is to keep their growth rate...

That is the aim. To bring back the glory home. During the same era you are talking about the relations between China and Islamic lands were also very excellent. For example the Chinese astronomers used to work along side Iranian astronomers in Maragheh observatory. And even the great Kublai Khan...

You are so kind and observant Aryan Bhai. In fact that was my intention. To bring something good in the darkness of western led propaganda news. The thing is such stuff are seldom reported by western propaganda outlet. It is simply too scary for them to report such findings. But nonetheless...

Still, China is at the top of the list beating US. And with large population base, it means the room for improvement is quite large. Chinese are so cool and calm. They never brag and they never get jealous. Even if you meet them in real life, they like to keep quite and work hard, disregarding...

That is the truth. As soon as the funding stops, the science suffers. With American economy in shambles, Israelis will find lesser and lesser of American aid pouring in.

That is right. But China takes the limelight as it tops the list. And so some extent Iran which has made it to fourth position. What is even more interesting is that the nation that drops the most in ranking is no other than Israel. They moving down the ranking fast.

That is certainly the case. China used to be under sanctions and threats by west and they improved massively. Now it is Iran that is moving up. Even we were doing much better in 1990's when some sanctions had been placed on us. So certainly the push coming from sanctions can be helpful.

In the next 10 years, the map of world science is going to be very different from today. Science is coming back home again after being away in the west for awhile.

That is wonderful. The future of science is bright in eastern countries. We have to unite and bring back our past glory.

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