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    Su-30MKI & JF-17 Air Fight

    Its unfair to compare a non operational JF17 to a MKI flanker which is in service with 5 Squadrons of the IAF already. JF17 wen it arrives will be a massive improvement on wat PAF has today. Even the 44 F16 are onlly basic block a/b and non BVR capable. Hence i agree with HJ786 JF17...
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    DRDO maybe Better then We Realise

    Interesting Vedio on another forum was surprised at the range of weapons [url= - India's Defence Research and Developments - Part 2[/url]
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    A Light Sabre for the Third World: The FC-1 / JF-17

    JF17 will sell well to those countries that CHINA has already sold F7s That means Pakistan N kOREA And small African Air forces. Your rich arabs will always go with Western Stuff because they want the engines and weapons that go with a fighter deal. Theses richer states want the whole...
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    Implications of Talibanised Pakistan for India

    If Pakistan Disintergrates it will be the reponsiblity of the State instituions that have failed the country. These are your Army, ISI and your politicians.. I actually think beneath the surface there are many who will be happy in india if their is factional groups in pakistan because...
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    US must convince India to move troops from LoC

    LOC border is a totally seperate issue to Pakistans massive internal threat. LOC is a hot disputed border and troop withdrawl cannot and will not happen. Pakistani Army if ordered to go into SWAT can and will crush this rebellion. BUT many believe the Army & isi ACTUALLY support the...
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    News on Pakistan's F16 Block/50 or 52

    I think the JF17 with SD10 will be the first serious BVR capable fighter wen the first squadron is raised in Nov/Dec 2009. As for USA upgrades and delivery of Amraams i think all the Noise coming out of Obama administration of LOAs conditions and Pakistan not doing enough is a sensitive...
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    News on Pakistan's F16 Block/50 or 52

    Does this mean PAF TODAY has limited or virtually no BVR capability.. The current 44 block a/b F16 are WVR planes only with a good but standard APG63 radar only.
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    Su-30MKI & JF-17 Air Fight

    SU30MKI BVR missle range is 105km The Radar range is 140km for a average fighter RCS. With regards su30mki advantages over both JF17 & F16 are as follows 1. upto 8 bvr missles versis 4 max for both F16/JF17 2. twin engines for more range/power 3. TVC & Canards very useful for...
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    News on Pakistan's F16 Block/50 or 52

    It is important to note that none of the aircraft will be delivered to Pakistan until the Administration ensures that Pakistan is in compliance with the LOA security notes, and the Administration has so advised Congress." What will Pakistan have to do top ensure the above is met
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    Indian Military Picture Thread

    Nice fake photos of TEJAS
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    News on Pakistan's F16 Block/50 or 52

    That Means 62 F16/52 in total in PAF colours by 2011 all being well. And a quantum leap in fire power...
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    Su-30MKI & JF-17 Air Fight

    Pilots flying JF-17 says its performance is higher than F-16's. Care to explain how. F16 is superbly designed fighter light years ahead of its time just look at the bubble canopy 360 degree view.
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    South Asia Air Forces: PAF counters IAF strategy

    A lot military projects take time and further development to mature into real operational use. To claim that every indian project has failed is slightly off mark. A lot of these weapons AGNI 2/3 and Brahmos & LCA are at very early stages of deployment. We al know there is a Brahmos...
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    Su-30MKI & JF-17 Air Fight

    To be fair Raja i have made that point myself. A mature operational flanker versis a JF17 is not fair in the JF17. To many question marks on aspects of this single engined fighter as yet. Much better comparison F16/52 V SU30MKI
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    F18 Super Hornets Perceived Role in IAF

    I,m asking the question is the Super Hornet capable of this ????
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    If Kashmir blows up, all bets off: US

    Pakistan seems to be CAUGHT in the middle ie A rock and a Hard place. 1. WOT increasing Taliban control in tribal borders expanding into cities with increasing USA pressure to apply more [Pakistan resources to counter this daily real threat. OR 2. To continue the PAKISTAN ARMY/ ISI...
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    Pakistan F-16 Discussions 2

    That picture of 16 look stunning. Such a beautiful looking fighter and that bubble canopy with 360 degree veiw is till to be bettered 30 years later
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    Summary of the Indian Air Force active aircraft fleet

    Those Russian planes are a Seperate additional order placed in 2007 for 40 new SU30MKI fighters to add to the original deal of 190 signed way back in 2001. Yes they are the same as standard indian MKI will include Israel EW kits
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    F18 Super Hornets Perceived Role in IAF

    Can the F18SH really do all of This. i UNDESTAND the USA has offered these at 60% TOT rather than 100% TOT but at $55m each. The f-18SH is the most ideal and comes with options none of the others offer. the F-16IN and F-18IN are the most advanced in terms of avionics, weapons load out and...
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    South Asia Air Forces: PAF counters IAF strategy

    Enigma. For me a World class Air force is one that meets the following criteria. 1. Combat fleet 60% Mature 4th Generation Fighters 2. Extensive Use of BVR force multiplers like Awacs/ refullers 3. Serious Combat experiece less than a decade ago or a massive History of major world...
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