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In reply to Munir Indians can,t count our 18 BLOCK 52s cause they need "Years to get MKIs" I think the indians alreasdy have well over 100 mki today versis nil block 52 F16.. i THINK YOU KNOW THAT ALREADY

You cannot use Wipikedia as a Source. I have quoted them several times and somer members say they are irrelevant. Not a good source. Unless they meant only for indian data.

When you take into account American EUA. The fact that JSF is not ready until 2012 even then thats Tranche 1. The issue that Both Japan & Austrilia have declined them and are demanding F22s I would much rather go for the Rafale its here and now. French have a awesome plane yet have not...

Can i assume then that Rafale F4 which will be the most advanced version of this fighter is comparable or very close to the JSF F35 lightening. Without going into tech details it looks stunning and very futuristic. Its cockpit latout is defo 5th generation.

I hope that india sees sense and spends $10-$12 billion wisely. Rafale all the way.

The Charts shows that based on 3 key facts Air to Air,,, Strike,,, & maintenance the ranking where as follows. 1st. Rafale F4 (TO INCLUDE AESA RADAR) 2nd. JSF 3rd. Typhoon 4th. F16/60 5th F18 E/F 6th Gripen 7th. F16 MLU (BLOCK52) The contract was awarded to...

Apparently the Dutch have just concluded recently a similar MMRCA race to india,s using virtualy the same planes leaving aside MIG35. The startling facts are that Rafale came above the Tyhoon and matched the F35. there is a nice chart to veiw of all fighters marks Interesting...

In Reply Batman. Personally i think Rafale is the best. Its a true multi role fighter. Its spectra suite is designed to avoid detection whilst carrying out EW operations. Its design gives low RCS and it will have a very powerful AESA radar soon and the new MBDA BVR missle Meteore. I...

Theres no misuse of Funds its just a bogus journalism. Every peice of USA military kit is brought witth USA blessing and full knowledge that it is being acquired to keep india checked and in place. If the Americans had an issue with it they could have stopped it anytime. Every...

Munir. What people fail to realise on this forum regardless of how new or expensive a new combat plane is there will always be glitches. Whether they may blades on engines of SU30MKI fighters or Software problems on Typhoon. Heck even F22 has had issues. Does not mean they are...

My 2 cents worth... Both Rafale & Typhoon are far superior to F16 in design. They incorporate far more in composites,, curved lines for reduced RCS great cockpit layout and ease of use. Where the F16 wins particularly the F16/60 is its Radar ie APG81 and range of weapons. With it...

Thus far Pakistan have ordered 42 JF17 for definite. There is a loan arrangement of $650m for PAF to buy these from China. This is a follow on from 8 prototypes that are currently going thru IOC. Recently a PAF spokesman suggested the first PAF JF17 wil,be raised by the year end...

I think the other fact blain has forgotten completely is just how rapidly India Military budget is rising. Despuite being only 2.5% of the GDP india current miliary budget is $30 billion. By 2020 it will be around $60 billion and comparable by then to France & UK. With regards to...

Are we saying F16 BLOCK 60 & F18 E/F are superior war planes to Typhoon & rafale

HJ786 you talk about a FC20 as cutting edge which won,t arrive in PAF until 2015. You claim it will have canards for extreme agility and phassed array radar.. Thats great wen these 36 planes arrive in 2015. Yet SU30MKI x 5 SQDS have Canards TVC & Bars radar here and now. The...

The reason SU30MKI is not battle proven is because its a brand new 4.5 generation plane which only arrived in service in 2004... Is the F22 Typhoon or Rafale or indeed J10 not deadly then. Cause thery have not seen combat as yet.

India Bankrupt LOL. Not with Dr Singh has Prime minster...for 5 more years His a clever little man. If anthing i see GDP crossing $2 trillion by 2020 and forex climbing way over $400 billion _________________________________________________________ Its strange how a Thread...

Munir If a SU30MKI pilot bugged out from shooting at a F7P OR F16 it was because of rules of engagement. These guys are professionals following strict guidelines. .. Don,t make the mistake that the MKI pilot chickened out. A single SU30MKI carries up to 12 BVR/WVR missles...

Regarding Rafale & Typhoon versis 4th generation USA teen series ie F16/60 & F18SH we are all about to find out by the end of this year. All 4 of these planes are directly competing for IAF MRCA order. India wil pick the best and tell all why ??? F18S/H is the best for...

HJ786... Re: Your comment F15/F16 versis SU30MKI in USA. We have all seen/studied the Vedio from the USA Pilot several times. Regardless of wat happened in that Excercise the USA Officer pointed out the relative Strength of SU30MKI VERSIS F15/F16 VERSIS F22... " Using his...