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  1. Chestnut

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    What Antonius said. The study is skewed. Modern Chinese AShM's like the YJ series are much more impressive than the C-705's and 802's that they export. Exocets are unfortunately lagging behind and if they did a study including the YJ series along with newer NATO missiles like the NSM it would...
  2. Chestnut

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    I will be very upset if a good chunk of that money is spent trying to keep the Flankers airworthy. If they don't want to have an all american fighter fleet for whatever reason they want to come up with then fine, buy a European triangle plane or hell continue on the KFX bandwagon and call it a...
  3. Chestnut

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    This study is very biased since if you look at the sample missiles that they used, the end result would obviously go in favor of the MM40 Block 3. For the most part, the MM40 Block 3 is already decades ahead to the C-705/802 (which is outdated as the technologies used are ones from the...
  4. Chestnut

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    I mean, that's how it's supposed to be regardless at all times. An Air Force should always have the biggest budget.
  5. Chestnut

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Ditto
  6. Chestnut

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Not doubting the Turkish arms industry in terms of capability, but unfortunately they are one or two 'Erdogan escapades' away from being sanctioned by France. And if they do, it will make our cooperation with them very meaningless.
  7. Chestnut

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    There isn't any. Even the Indians figured it out that much that you would still need the source codes from not only the parent country, but even the country you're buying the hypothetical "bridge" for the two assets, which there is no guarantee that they would be willing to do. @Nilgiri can...
  8. Chestnut

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Oh absolutely, it's just that I am jaded by my own personal experience with both parties. For the most part, the Air Force and Navy generally knows better on what works for them. Whereas the Army (with their bloated budget) would go on a shopping spree instead of making a concise multi-year...
  9. Chestnut

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Which is precisely where the DSME 2000 should come in.
  10. Chestnut

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    That's what I am getting out of this. And that is a very BIG issue considering his track record of impulsivity.
  11. Chestnut

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Both, I guess.
  12. Chestnut

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Not according to the wallets of politicians. I mean, to be fair, it has it's ups and downs. I'm just too jaded to see the good things behind it. So I guess we would have to see. But again, this literally just proves my point about not blindly trusting official publications from MenHan or BUMN...
  13. Chestnut

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Yeah, one was launched already in 2018. https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2019/08/rok-navys-1st-3000-tons-kss-iii-submarine-dosan-ahn-chang-ho-passes-max-depth-test/ The DMSE 2000 has the advantage of being a clean sheet design. So emerging technologies that would be coming out in the next...
  14. Chestnut

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Notice guys that at no point did I mention anything about the Su-35, what I said was: As usual, your grasping at straws my guy. You do when you need direction on where to direct your homegrown aviation industry or to assess the capabilities of equipment used by your peers in order to develop...
  15. Chestnut

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    And what exactly is the problem?
  16. Chestnut

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Because reverse engineer does not always mean improve, my guy. Sometimes, state actors buy equipment to reverse engineer in order to develop countermeasures against them. For example, how China likely learned how to defeat (and improve upon) the Russian SAP-518 ECM pod by reverse-engineering...
  17. Chestnut

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Considering how the Russians are/were having trouble developing the Felon due to their economy tanking, whilst the J-20 program worked out fine, there's not much of a point doubting so. You can see it plain as day. Furthermore, as I recall you were the one who was saying how we should get the...
  18. Chestnut

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    *Yawn* Original interview: https://mil.sina.cn/sd/2018-12-09/detail-ihmutuec7501376.d.html?from=wap&fbclid=IwAR0Zimt46_KUVu7lzkOy6OXCwaKc_jbkDrSlt_K9Qdn1WqMdPc7DTwlb24g English translation...
  19. Chestnut

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Sorry, but you will be hard pressed to find a lot of people on this section that would support buying Russian. It's been talked and debated time and time again and it all comes down to the same conclusion. The TNI AU should not be buying Russian Jets, or any Russian equipment for that matter...
  20. Chestnut

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    I wouldn't really lay the blame on DSME and PAL for the problems faced with the initial batch. The Koreans KNOW how to build submarines, it's just that the government wasn't ready to pay the full cost. MenHan and the Navy pretty much told both shipyards to cut corners during production and they...
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