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  1. Chestnut

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    If they do get them it's likely for parts.
  2. Chestnut

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    I assume the number might have something to do with them wanting to get into the Matador missile program.
  3. Chestnut

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    That's the thing. Airlines don't want the best, they want something that is cost effective. Habibie is a great engineer and made a good aircraft, however I don't think he understood the airline market that well back then. Had he attempted to market it as a tactical transporter. I would say it...
  4. Chestnut

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    Not only older, but used extensively for Baltic Air Policing. Literally 10000 hours on average.
  5. Chestnut

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Personally, I actually don't doubt that the US would be willing to give us a good deal through Foreign Military Financing. It's less sensitive than the F-35 and considering the Flankers have been a known maintenance burden within the AU, I can see Prabowo being able to finesse his way into...
  6. Chestnut

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    How so? The Su-35 shares almost no commonality with our current Flanker fleet. Exactly explain how it is the best option. Also, you have never replied to my question of how having US-built jet aircraft is a "problem" in your view. Please explain that as well. And why is that? our most pressing...
  7. Chestnut

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    You do realize we have more concrete military cooperation agreements with the United States and her MNNA allies such as Australia and Singapore compared to that of China and Russia, right? The TNI has historically been aligned rather closely to their Western counterparts irrespective of the...
  8. Chestnut

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    Keep in mind that it's an LOO (Letter of Offer), the final purchase can be less if MenHan decides that it's too expensive.
  9. Chestnut

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Black is cheaper.
  10. Chestnut

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    That's one thing, I get that we're officially non-aligned but within the context of recent developments, agreements, and other documents and anecdotes shared on this thread alone; I get annoyed at having to explain to every Slavaboo time and time again why we can't buy Russian and how it's not...
  11. Chestnut

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    *Halls of Montezuma intensifies*
  12. Chestnut

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Why do you keep going on and on about trying to detect F-35's? We already share tactical data with the Singaporeans, Australians, and Americans (as part of the CISMOA for the Link 16's) anyways, why should we be buying things to detect a specific aircraft that we are 1.) already on track on...
  13. Chestnut

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    I worked with Hensoldt can I can say it likely doesn't work as well as you think it does. I sincerely doubt Hensoldt would freely advertise these sort of capabilities publicly (because that would just incentivize 5th gen producers to amp up development of LOM and other reduced RCS features)...
  14. Chestnut

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    The funniest part about these photos is the fact they are wearing NOD's yet are carrying rifles with no IR emitters, thus not allowing them to aim their rifles under NOD's. Nice Try AD.
  15. Chestnut

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    The Black on DPM is slowly growing on me not gonna lie.
  16. Chestnut

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Considering we are pretty much going to be operating F-35's in the future, why do we need to be able to detect it? Like it or not, for the foreseeable future our interests aligns with those of the US, Australia, and Singapore. So as much as no one wants to admit it, we are very much in their...
  17. Chestnut

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    That and MBDA is rolling out the Aster 30 Block 2, which is supposed to offer performance closer to THAAD.
  18. Chestnut

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    I think this came out of the LOI signed in 2017. Look at the registration date. Until there's an LOR/LOA we should just treat it as nothing more than "MenHan flex".
  19. Chestnut

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    The best missile for the AD is arguably the SAMP/T in terms of cost to benefit ratio. Me, @Gen3115, @Azull, Striver, and a couple of others talked about it out of boredom. As much as I like the MEADS/Patriot series (and arguably the fact that the PAC-3/4 blows the SAMP/T out of the water in...
  20. Chestnut

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    The YJ-12 has an export variant, the CM-302, which I don't doubt the Navy can get their hands on if they wanted to. The Harpoon and NSM were already offered to the Navy as well. If anything you can say that this study was done to compare the missiles that they have in inventory, but to say...
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