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  1. Chestnut

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    It's a reversed engineered C-705. Personally I'd just join the NSM/JSM program and save a couple million/billion on tax payer revenue but apparently not.
  2. Chestnut

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Greeeeeaaaaaatttttt...
  3. Chestnut

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Seriously, just let them. It's not worth our time. Praising the CCP is weird even in the Indo-Chinese community.
  4. Chestnut

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Speaking of which. *Halls of Montezuma intensifies* And they are entitled to that opinion. To silence their voice is just going to make you look bad. It's better to just continue with economic development then try to fight a smear campaign with another smear campaign.
  5. Chestnut

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    That's a lot of faith for a state owned company. It's all made by local private companies. Again, it's not really the quality of plates or lack of body armor. The fact that the majority of casualties is the result of getting shot in unarmored areas is more due to lack of quality training...
  6. Chestnut

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    What do you think I mean when I say he's an observer? By observer, he observes our military's field exercises and assess our capabilities. I don't mean as a literal artillery observer.
  7. Chestnut

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    It's an observer, we send people to their exercises as well.
  8. Chestnut

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Seems more like a training and ISR issue then lack of body armor tbh.
  9. Chestnut

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Wouldn't blame them. The consensus is that you shouldn't really wear plate carriers in hot and humid locations, it drags you down and would end up killing more people than it protects.
  10. Chestnut

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    An NGO is one thing, it's not the same as arming or supporting a secessionist group. It's only if the Navy moves away from it's current Euro-centric mindset. An ESSM is cheaper than its European counterparts and arguably have better performance. Also was it confirmed that the NASAMS 2 we use...
  11. Chestnut

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Not that I know of, in fact, Habibie was in negotiations with BAE to locally produce the fighters here. IIRC the deal was for 100+ jets, 40 would be built by BAE in England with the remainder to be assembled and then later on fully manufactured at the PTDI facility in Bandung. I forgot to...
  12. Chestnut

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    If you mean to say Australia, then no. The cons from a West Papuan separation heavily outweigh the benefits.
  13. Chestnut

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    The way I see it until Indonesia has reached a level of economic stability that are not concentrated on Java, secessionist movements would continue to form. They can be formed out of natural resentment at the central government or state-sponsored from abroad. I agree, but again I don't see the...
  14. Chestnut

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Agreed. Though as much as we have to look towards peer conflict, the Super Tucanos are sorely needed for COIN ops. Like it or not the reality of the life in Indonesia is that because its a very multicultural country, secession and rebellion is going to be very common place, especially with an...
  15. Chestnut

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    They will never give us an MRO. Us sending them back for maintenance is a heavy cash cow for them. We really shouldn't be buying any Russian products at this point. There isn't much of a future for them. I'm willing to go as far as giving the Marines French made vehicles to replace the Russian...
  16. Chestnut

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    I'm just more keen on the cost-to-capability ratio on the F/A-18. Although the F-15EX is a superior strike aircraft (and with the AMBER rack could likely be better at interception duties), the SHornet has the advantage of being able to be made into a dedicated EW aircaft and if need be a buddy...
  17. Chestnut

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    We should really just forget about the Rafale. I can guarantee if they are adamant in introducing the Rafale, you can say goodbye to not only the Flankers, but the F-16's as well in the long run. Setting up the relevant infrastructure for them is going to be REALLY costly, not to mention they...
  18. Chestnut

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    The contract stipulated that they were to be fixed and refurbished before delivery, but when they arrived they were all literally in such terrible condition that the Cavalry literally put their foot down and complained. However as it was Gatot's work, there wasn't much they could say nor could...
  19. Chestnut

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Btw, to whoever was wondering about how the M113/M109 deal is the result of corruption, you can read this link. It's blocked by a paywall but the URL should give you a hint of what happened. https://yosefardi.com/2018/04/tomy-winata-gatot-nurmantyo-and-pt-indocertes/ Tl;Dr Boomers doing boomer...
  20. Chestnut

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    No, the ones we have are the Romeos, which is the semi-active laser homing variant. It says it's for maintenance work.
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