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  1. Gundala

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Im not sure whats going on the diplomatic channel at this moment. But this radar news and the flotila fleet of chinese Nelayan that is guarded by chinese coast guard inside our EEZ seems too close to each other. Are we leaning towards US more that it makes the chinese unhappy? If only we are...
  2. Gundala

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Overlapped here meaning with the same task/purpose carried by the fighters we have 2 completely different aircraft. SU35 share the same weapon arsenals and some parts with SU that we have, its like having F16 52ID and F16 Vipers. It also shares the same russian weapon arsenals. The designated...
  3. Gundala

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    It all depends on the task/purpose the fighters are assign to. With all the SU35/KFX drama that bring uncertainty I think F16V is the wise choice for now. F35 without good network centric would be a waste, F15 overlapped the Sukhoi (assigned task) that we have. Please keep in mind that buying...
  4. Gundala

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Comission is always good! lol. But yeah, as I heard that their govt has merged mig with sukhoi I can only imagine things wont get better for a while for them. Last Egypt issued on their so called "brand new" Mig-29 was simply showed how the real situation in their aviation industry. Tho they...
  5. Gundala

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Wow interesting reading, specially between chestnut and others about the US vs Rusia fighters. It never gets old isnt it? That talks remind me of something I promise @Cromwell couple of months ago about our Sukhoi as a obrolan di warung kopi dengan seorang teman. Keep in mind that this is just...
  6. Gundala

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Nothing on the surface for sure? Sadap on SBY term and see how they react? Even in PM hearing over thier senate he said he only did it for Country national interest. Timor leste? Aside from how our military operated there the closest we are going to war with afaik in orde baru era was with them...
  7. Gundala

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Both US and China are pretty much the same, they only do it in a different way. The reason are also the same, protecting their national interest. When you have power over things it would be a waste if you not make a toy out of it right? Its in human nature :-) China do it in economic way where...
  8. Gundala

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    I like his statement more then Prabowo last statement. Once we can setup the base system then all others will follow. This will automatically reject any future non-integrated item purchase, and this system should be build on kemenhan political power to stand in the middle and accomodate all the...
  9. Gundala

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    2 more contracts for this year (MEF II)? What are those? Sukhoi & Hercules?
  10. Gundala

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    I like this, Radar and Missiles. Those 2 things we have to master first, Indera MX4/RHAN122 is a good start. We are going to need alot of coastal def, ground to ground, anti air def, etc in the future. Put more R&D money on them pls :D
  11. Gundala

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Yea but they can also be "strategic" with AKS/AKP capability tho it might NOT be as good as the P8. But looking at the budget standpoint and the pressure of involving local company manufacture then they prolly going to settle for less if the budget say so. We'll see :D Idk if they ever sell one...
  12. Gundala

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Perjuangan Rakyat Semesta is a Doctrine/Concept/Vision like you said widely use during WWII/Penjajahan Era. The Program bela negara is its "turunan"/Part of its strategy. Things like some of commercial pilots here in Indonesia were trained for jungle survival, and officially listed as military...
  13. Gundala

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Yea interesting, there are 2 type of Patmar they are after from the list: Pesud Patmar (could be NC/CN) Pesud Patmar "Strategis" (advanced version of CN or P8?) The other thing is Attack Helicopter (Attack/Escort GKK"Gerakan Kapal Ke Pantai"). This is interesting, it could be maritime coogar...
  14. Gundala

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    I am looking forward to the Strategic plan Prabowo going to propose to President later in January. As for now I only hear what has been said by previous menhan with a bit of a twist (pertahanan rakyat semesta, lack of technology, etc, dang man we already know that). The down side of most of our...
  15. Gundala

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    It could be, but the word "expedite: make (an action or process) happen sooner or be accomplished more quickly"? Why expedite if the contract already signed? We know the plan of CBG sub was intended to be in 4 batches at first, then there are some rumour it went down to 3 batches. Imo 3 to 4...
  16. Gundala

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Interesting indeed, the latest delivery date for the second batch is March 2026. They might be able to deliver it in 2025 but the 3rd MEF end in 2024. Its unlikely if they are going to order another batch with the same type before the whole 2nd batch ended/delivered, so it might be...
  17. Gundala

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    lol, yea thats why this forum is better for my liking to be active. Tho I do fool around in defense blogspot as well but thats just about it. The concept of Air Superiority has been shifting, just like the concept of Interceptor back then. Afaik only Russia with her Mig 31 is still doing the...
  18. Gundala

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Yea they fail to notice that in politics everything happen for a reason. Including leaks, govt official statement, etc. However from political stand point with the rumor of expiring state credit this year (which is only a month away), the uncertainty of some contracts (sukro project mostly)...
  19. Gundala

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    It reminds me on when Pak Gatot didnt get the Visa/denied entry to US for some reasons :D
  20. Gundala

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Agree, competition is good for business. But its not that easy building Military Industry when there is not even any "real" competition in shipyard industry per say. I personally not agree with some BUMN taking most of the APBN but if we looking at the condition of private one they simply not...
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