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And then there is the little issue of chopped up bodies of armymen... well, it so happens that no one likes to see their brothers-in-arms in more than one piece even in death... what does YOUR sorry a$$ conscience say about that??? War is tough and indeed ****** business... elite or not...

I deleted my redundant post...

Who the hell ever called this judiciary SANE... which Pakistan have you been living in budy... do you really want me to say my mind about judiciary and get my post "moderated"... to say the least judiciary has been shying away from anything that has any implication or any real impact... even in...

Dude... get the pun... someone called Pakistan Army a "punjabi institute [sic]" which can be nothing farther than truth and my response was rhetorical... Pakistan Army is perhaps the most merit based organization that this country has and perhaps will (for the foreseeable future) ever see...

Musharraf was Punjabi... Kiyani is Punjabi... Zia was Punjabi, Ayub Khan was Punjabi... these "bloody Punjabis!" looks like anyone who joins this "institution" turns into a Punjabi... I wonder what is the definition of "Punjabi"... Does it really mean "Pakistani"... well then I am a "Punjabi"...

Damn'it he did not do anything wrong... he was cornered in 1999 and he did what a general would do... retaliate... The judiciary was kiss'a$$ then and is vindictive now... This d'bag bunch of geniuses did not do diddly-skuat about ANY case and now they are showing "phurr'tian"... vindictive...

So now: Raja "Rental" is halal Jamshed Dasti "Ja'li degree walaye" is halal Mian sahib "Dhawa on Supreme Court" AND "aerial hijacking walaye" is halal Zurr-Dari "swiss account walaye" is halal Altaf bhai "drill their legs walaye" is kosher "Ephedrine Brothers" are legal while, CJ "cover thy...

It was quite interesting to watch Hamid F'ing Mir's "Capital Talk" program where Ahmad Raza Kasuri very eloquently pointed out that the bail hearing judge had no authority to add any new charges to the General's case. The worst he was allowed to do was to deny the bail and even that was not...

Which should mean that his audience are also Uzbek scums and not the locals...

Though I enjoyed the tat-a-tat responses but I was looking for exact reasons: 1) What cases is he involved in? What came of Imran Khan's cases against him? 2) Why no gov. seriously persude his extradition? 3) HOW THE HELL DOES HE RUN HIS PONZI SCHEME FROM UK W/O ANY CHARISMA, ANY, WELL...

As the title states, I have a few questions about Altaf "Bhai"... 1) Why is he in self-imposed exile. 2) How does he run his ponzi scheme from UK and stay politically relevant. 3) Why/how did he manage to stay in the UK despite all the "seasons" of Pakistani politics... (extradition?)...

I could have not said it better my friend... :) This mistrust and suspicion is at the bed-rock of these "allies" (transactional) relation, but none of it is Pakistan's doing... You find Pakistan capricious and deceitful after risking its neck (nuclear annihilation anyone?) during a...

maybe I am not the only one thinking about the "do more" question as a two way road... ;) http://http://www.defence.pk/forums/pakistans-war/37395-other-side-must-do-its-job-pakistan-rasmussen.html

Was having a few nukes positioned in Cuba such a "crisis"... when did the USSR really fly a few sorties over the US that required immediate scramble over the US skies... perception my friend, perception... its all in the head or whatever your five senses inform you of... the "existential threat"...

Sounds very interesting so I just ordered a copy... :)

Too long, just like mine, but appreciate you at least spending some time giving it a thought, though it didn't cause a dent in your thinking neither did your words to mine... this is the mistrust, this is the difference in agenda that I harped on about... I hope you acknowledge, and thus we...

I think you would be more to the point if you say "There remains a real reason for the Pakistanis to see Taliban.... " and so on... You see it should be left to the one whose existence is in question to decide what he/she deems as threat to their existence. Thereby whatever Pakistanis...

Agreed... it IS a fact that those deals lead to increase in attacks and such, but remember, politics in Pakistan REQUIRE that you give peace-deals a chance, even if it means just to show that you made an effort... you do NOT shoot from the hip in your own hometown that you do in other countries...

Gen. (r) Musharraf is perhaps the best Ambassador that Paksitan has... The guy is clear in his thought and right to the point... speaking logically and precisely... he is still defending his mother land... Bravo Soldier, Bravo Musharraf... :pakistan:

Stuns me as well... another very "smart" idea from a "very smart" team of... ahem... clowns... I was half expecting them to call this "bright idea" Shaheed-Bai'nazeer-Bhutto-Student-task-force-on-Extremist-Busting... :rofl: Decrease the militarization of the population, turn the society...