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  1. Su-35SM3 Flanker-N

    Islam and Democracy in Indonesia : Tolerance without Liberalism

    At least they have the word "Republic" in Socialist Republic of Vietnam....right? :p Really....I'm only starting with democracy 101...already too difficult for him?
  2. Su-35SM3 Flanker-N

    Islam and Democracy in Indonesia : Tolerance without Liberalism

    Division of power to those who are not elected by people? Check and balance by those who are not elected by people Control of power by those who are not elected by people? That's your definition of democracy?
  3. Su-35SM3 Flanker-N

    Islam and Democracy in Indonesia : Tolerance without Liberalism

    Do you understand democracy? If Filipinos voted for Duterte, it's democracy, no matter what Duterte will do during his administration. Your Quadrumvirate isn't chosen by people. Division of power between executive and parliament is democracy, because both are chosen by people. People decide who...
  4. Su-35SM3 Flanker-N

    Islam and Democracy in Indonesia : Tolerance without Liberalism

    Do you know about DI/TII rebellion? I guess you don't.... In fact major muslims organizations, like NU and Muhammadiyah are the preservers of democracy in Indonesia.
  5. Su-35SM3 Flanker-N

    Islam and Democracy in Indonesia : Tolerance without Liberalism

    True...Indonesians have shed their blood to preserve democracy. We will continue to do so when democracy is threatened once again. Having the ability to criticize even the top leader of the country....Well, I'm sure many Vietnamese can't even dream of having that privilege.
  6. Su-35SM3 Flanker-N

    Islam and Democracy in Indonesia : Tolerance without Liberalism

    Yes...one punishment that prevents thousands of abortions, sexual harassment and rape cases. Islam highly values the honor of women and the western media just focuses on what's visible. Imagine how many thousands of women who are saved from permanent emotional scars due to harassment and they...
  7. Su-35SM3 Flanker-N

    Islam and Democracy in Indonesia : Tolerance without Liberalism

    Allowing your daughter to sleep with multiple boys before her marriage is the actual primitive act. Caning a single girl isn't actually painful, but this allows the honor of millions of other girls are preserved. You won't understand it.....
  8. Su-35SM3 Flanker-N

    Islam and Democracy in Indonesia : Tolerance without Liberalism

    Not really....Indonesia is really peaceful, even in front of Istana Negara where a brief clash happened. The street is clean and the traffic goes by normally. Things must be harder in your country too...I mean because the welfare level of Indonesia is actually higher than Philippines and...
  9. Su-35SM3 Flanker-N

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    I guess you need go to the rear for R&R...I'll be the fresh reinforcement and give it a try
  10. Su-35SM3 Flanker-N

    Islam and Democracy in Indonesia : Tolerance without Liberalism

    As a whole, terrorism affects muslims more than other adherents of other religions. Since 9/11, more innocent muslims died from acts of terrorism than non-muslims. Muslims are also at the forefront in fighting terror...again not non-muslim. This also applies in Indonesia. Terrorists don't...
  11. Su-35SM3 Flanker-N

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Wow...roughly similar to a single Su-30MK2
  12. Su-35SM3 Flanker-N

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    A fine example how Western media always looks for ways to blame muslim and Islam. It's perfectly clear that the main goal is to put Ahok to justice and not to put him to death. All major muslim organizations urge order and calm. Many christians reach and reached high positions. Once the Chief of...
  13. Su-35SM3 Flanker-N

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    I guess she regains her full appeal...after her recent breakup :D Anyway...happy weekend
  14. Su-35SM3 Flanker-N

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    The most important thing is to make West Papuans as the best Melanesians and also proud Indonesians. Just look to the east...Port Moresby is a crime-cursed capital and much of the country is lawless, effectively controlled by tribes and gangs. Compared to Jayapura and the rest of West...
  15. Su-35SM3 Flanker-N

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    that's bold.....but with only a token police force as defense force, should be quite easy :D
  16. Su-35SM3 Flanker-N

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    I can imagine it in my mind....the usual noisy and smoky marine assault wave with marine infantry in landing crafts, BMP-3F, BTR-50 and PT-76....once the beach is secured; Leopard 2, Caesar and other TNI-AD assets, as well as battalions after battalions of infantry from TNI-AD land in a more...
  17. Su-35SM3 Flanker-N

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    The video quality reminds me of those Iraqi insurgent videos when they fired Strela at Coalition helicopters
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    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Royal Indonesian Navy? Hmmmm
  19. Su-35SM3 Flanker-N

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Yes....there's still a huge room for future growth, unlike our neighbors Singapore and Brunei that consistently recorded budget surplus. F-16 mock scramble exercise
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    Indonesia Defence Forum

    It's true what people say that even if we have a huge raise, it doesn't mean that we will have enough money. The state budget and military budget have increased significantly in the past 10 years, but we still end up having deficits. We simply spend more, because we think we earn more. As an...
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