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  1. Pax Ottomana

    How Turkey got LUCKY with the F-35?

    Hahaha. Are you sure about that my friend? Did you know that the Pentagon has lost $21 TRILLION of US taxpayer money and no one knows where it went? Source: https://www.forbes.com/sites/kotlikoff/2019/01/09/holding-u-s-treasuries-beware-uncle-sam-cant-account-for-21-trillion/#6cebc267644d...
  2. Pax Ottomana

    How Turkey got LUCKY with the F-35?

    What capabilities? F-35 can't even reliably take off from ground. Aussie pilot couldn't get it to work for 1 HOUR and had to switch planes. Stealth is not completely useless, but it's not worth its huge price tag. It's nothing more than a marketing gimmick. It's also the reason why the US is...
  3. Pax Ottomana

    How Turkey got LUCKY with the F-35?

    OUR mistakes? What the FVCK are you talking about? Was it Turkey's mistake that the US fired 2 missiles on TCG Muavenet killing over a dozen Turks? Was it Turkey's mistake to rescue Turkish Cypriots in 1974 with the US subsequently embargoing us for years? Was it Turkey's mistake that the US...
  4. Pax Ottomana

    How Turkey got LUCKY with the F-35?

    You're dismissing an idea simply because of who says it without putting forth any logical arguments whatsoever. The guy developed the F-16 and A-10. by the way, and is a better expert than either one of us. Stealth tech hasn't been tested against a decent military power and it failed against an...
  5. Pax Ottomana

    How Turkey got LUCKY with the F-35?

    But I didn't only quote Perre Sprey, did I? Do you have anything to say about the rest? And what is it that Perre Sprey says that you find unacceptable and why? Ain't going to happen with all the outstanding issues between the US and Turkey, including not only the S-400 but also more important...
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    How Turkey got LUCKY with the F-35?

    First of all, you know nothing about me so don't make assumptions about what I know or don't know. Attack my arguments, not ME. All the countries you listed have no choice but to abide by US dictations because their security depends on the US military doctrine of global domination. US asks them...
  7. Pax Ottomana

    How Turkey got LUCKY with the F-35?

    I've lived in the US for 20 years. Unfortunately most Turks are naive, brainwashed by Hollywood and know fvckall about how the US military industrial complex works and how much they lie and cheat and even rob the American public itself. The Pentagon cannot account for $21 TRILLION USD. It's all...
  8. Pax Ottomana

    How Turkey got LUCKY with the F-35?

    Very dumb argument. The fact of the matter is that Israel got them practically for FREE. Turkey would've had to pay 30-40 billion USD. Israel receives over $4 billion/year in free military aid from the US, not to mention around $8 billion/year in loan guarantees. Jews OWN the US. Canada, for...
  9. Pax Ottomana

    Turkey’s S-400 vs F-35 dilemma in 2019

    Fair enough. As a departing gift, this is the latest on the F-35 as of TODAY. It still has HUNDREDS of unfixed issues. https://www.pogo.org/investigation/2020/03/f-35-design-flaws-mounting-new-document-shows/ Even this is by design. They keep these issues with the plane OPEN so that they can...
  10. Pax Ottomana

    Turkey’s S-400 vs F-35 dilemma in 2019

    You still don't understand. USAF isn't buying F-35 because it's good. They're buying it to siphon money into the deep pockets of Lockheed Martin. It's a ponzi scheme. USAF has TONS of other assets to safeguard American skies (F-22 being one of them). It is by no means dependent on the F-35 and...
  11. Pax Ottomana

    Turkey’s S-400 vs F-35 dilemma in 2019

    The Pentagon cannot account for $21 billion USD of American taxpayer money. It's all LOST. Gone! You can verify this with a simple Google search. That's how irresponsibly they spend money in American government. Their purchase decisions make no sense whatsoever other than enriching US defense...
  12. Pax Ottomana

    Turkey’s S-400 vs F-35 dilemma in 2019

    Brother, I've lived in the US for 20 years. I know this country to the bone, inside out. What's your experience level with these "adamlar"? US is not dependent on the F-35. If you remove all the F-35s today, USAF would still be more powerful than the next couple dozen countries combined. US is...
  13. Pax Ottomana

    T-625 & Turkish Utility Helicopter Programs

    It's not designed with combat roles as a priority but I bet it can be rigged for such purposes.
  14. Pax Ottomana

    Turkey’s S-400 vs F-35 dilemma in 2019

    Brother, that's because they're spending the money they're printing themselves. You clearly don't know how the US military industrial complex works. How they can spend so much money for such a lemon of an aircraft? Let me tell you how... Because there's no federal accountability whatsoever. US...
  15. Pax Ottomana

    How Turkey got LUCKY with the F-35?

    Excellent point. He's a very smart man, and owns companies like Tesla and SpaceX.
  16. Pax Ottomana

    Turkey’s S-400 vs F-35 dilemma in 2019

    Brother, I respect your opinion but please watch these two videos. That's all I'm asking. First video is old but it's by the designer of F-16 and A-10. The second video is by VOX explaining the corrupt roots of the F-35 program and how it needs to LIE in order to succeed. Please watch them and...
  17. Pax Ottomana

    How Turkey got LUCKY with the F-35?

    Such "simulations" are fully controlled by the US military industrial complex. F-16s were built by the same company (Lockheed) who's now trying to aggressively market the F-35. How do you think it'd look if its old planes beat its new planes? It's all rigged and bullshit. You'd get a more honest...
  18. Pax Ottomana

    How Turkey got LUCKY with the F-35?

    Vox nicely explains how the F-35 is an elaborate SCAM created for $$$.
  19. Pax Ottomana

    How Turkey got LUCKY with the F-35?

    How the F-35 is TOTAL BULLSHIT and was only designed to do one thing: Siphon money into the pockets of the US military industrial complex.
  20. Pax Ottomana

    Which stop gap fighter would you prefer for TurAF?

    Turkey hasn't launched an international tender to replace the F-35 (yet), let alone specifically choosing and requesting the JF-17 from Pakistan/China. If you have reliable sources suggesting otherwise, please do share. Turkey's support of Uighurs is limited to political rhetoric only and it's...
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