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One cannot consider "F-35 vs S-400" without paying attention to who sells these systems (USA and Russia), Turkey's relations with these countries, and the greater realpolitik and geopolitics at play in our region and around the world. Turkey HAD TO choose the S-400 over F-35, it wasn't a...

Agreed. That tends to be the case with strategic weapons programs. Once finished, Gezgin will be Turkey's most lethal offensive system and its best deterrent short of nuclear weapons.

With the price of a barrel of oil hitting $20, US/Israel-controlled dictatorships like Saudi Arabia and UAE aren't in a position to "punish" anyone. All they can do is put their progressive cousins (princes) who want to stop doing Israel's bidding in hotel prisons...

What does this have to do with the thread and the F-35 being a lemon?

What a load of shit. Put down the Lockheed marketing catalog and LISTEN. F-35 is crap and even Americans themselves are saying it. Turkey is struggling to develop an engine for its UAVs because it doesn't have the resources or the behemoth defense budget of the US. That has NOTHING to do with...

Sounds like we can expect Turkey to produce some very cutting-edge missiles with these tools. Thanks for taking the time to type up this fantastic explanation @Faith_of_the_Fallen . Much appreciated.

US sanctioning sovereign nations "for developing nukes" while it has the world's 2nd largest stockpile and the highest number of nuclear tests on the planet is laughable.

S-400 was equally a response to the US in the aftermath of the CIA/Pentagon-backed Gulenist coup d'etat against Turkish democracy, as well as American support for terrorists (PKK/YPG) and Greek/Israeli drilling in the East Mediterranean while violating Turkish EEZ rights. It was a necessary...

Looks like this flying potato can't even reach Mach 1.3 without damaging its afterburner and Lockheed Martin has been trying to HIDE THE FACT for years. Surprise surprise!!! This report just came out this week...

Turkish Navy has many years of experience safely operating helicopters from frigates with tiny helipads. While (admittedly) fixed wing aircraft are a different ball game, I doubt the learning curve will be too steep.

Yes, OF COURSE the F-16 also serves America's interests. What did you think? It makes a ton of money for US defense companies and keeps the national security of those countries dependent on the US. Do you think the US would supply F-16s to a country/regime that acts against US interests? How...

We wants the thread gone because he disagrees with us and doesn't know how to debate. Typical coward behavior. I guess everyone has to check with him first for a seal of approval before anything's posted. He's made it to the top of my shit list.

@The Eagle @WebMaster Even though I have my differences of opinion with @T-123456 on issues like F-35, he's right in protesting lack of action against obvious trolls who blatantly insult Turks and Muslims. Defence,pk has never tolerated racism and islamophobia and shouldn't start now...

^ Someone please ban this delusional drama queen for trying to dictate to the forum owners what threads he will allow to exist here.

That made me laugh. Americans and electronic warfare...... :D Do you guys remember when half of Hawaii was scared to death in 2018 because they thought a ballistic nuclear missile was on its way to destroy them?

F-35 is only useful against pajama-wearing, AK-wielding insurgents in countries like Iraq and Syria. It has no chance operating against a well-financed, advanced military like Russia, China, or any other G20-level country, who have the capability to develop or purchase "meter wave radars" that...

Yes, of course it is possible. Also, it wouldn't be the first time Turkey's upgrading a 3rd party system for Pakistan. Turkey can modernize PK F-16s with new glass cockpit avionics, Turkish mission computer and AESA radars capable of operating next-gen A2A/A2G missiles (Turkish/NATO/Western)...

@ÇölKaplanı @T-123456 If you two are done rubbing each other on the back in your emotional support group, listen up. F-35 is highly hyped up, too expensive to own and operate, not combat ready, and when it IS combat ready, it's fully controlled by the US, a country that consistently acts...

@xenon54 You're missing the point here. F-35 isn't so expensive because it's "the best". It's expensive because Lockheed Martin knows the US government will approve whatever price they charge and no one will refuse to pay and the US public won't question it. It's an absolute blessing for...