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Let's not start the dick measuring game. I didn't say that PAC is better than HAL I pointed out that they dont have the capacity to manufacture 83 aircraft and work on 2 programs at one time the MK 1 and MK 2. It took PAF 5 6 years or more for a reason from block 2 to block 3 despite having...

Tejas MK 2 is still an aircraft on paper. I don't think HAL can develop MK 1A and then deliver all 83 MK 1 in just 5 years and also make MK 2 unless some vedic technological leap happens and india can manufacture like Boeing. Being realistic MK 2 is still one decade away

Don't forget that tejas was backed by Israel US and Russia the engine is American the radar is Israeli and avionics and weapons from Russia and Israel then why call it indigenous and despite all this support how the hell did a light aircraft like tejas take so much time to develop. Something...

All you guys have for now is meteor astra is not going to be ready for a long time. We have heard that before Tejas MK 2 Astra MK 2 yet we didn't even see a working prototype and you bragging it can counter PL 15 lol what makes you think India can make a PL 15 missile counter in a year and...

Yes J 10c is a good option and China will not demand direct payment they will give us relaxation in payment maybe instalments but Paf is allergic to it . Indeed Russian tech is too expensive and the economy will not be in any state to buy fighter aircraft after Corona let's hope Azm and block 3...

They did sell us the hinds because we paid in cash if we can get 16 to 18 of used aircraft we can get them upgraded easily because Russia won't object once they get some money and after upgrading from China we can post these dedicated EW birds in group of 2 in 8 to 9 squadrons they will reduce...

Sir the airbase can be taken out by cruise missiles or SOWs then where will the aircraft land and when the AESA can engage 4 targets then why not use 4 BVRAAMS on 4 targets that will keep them away from our fighters as Indian BVRAAMS have less range than PL 15 . We have already seen that on 27...

Where will 2 squadrons of J 11 and J 15 come from when they are not allowed to be exported because they are copies of Russian flanker design and they also have a huge RCS and are an easy target.

The JF 17 is light means less fuel and only 2 BVRAAMS it will have to land again and again to refuel . We cant always count on air to air refueling because what if they get taken out then how will the Thunders stay in air ?? What if it lands and gets taken out by a cruise missile or the runway...

Existing air frames of JF 17 block 1 and 2 do not have the ability to be further upgraded to block 3 standard so they are just going to get old in 20 years and will not be combat effective. Even if we make block 4 it doesn't mean much unless previous aircraft can be upgraded to that standard so...

Azm is much more complex than a 4th gen fighter we should go for a 4th gen only If there is a delay in project Azm which is not going to happen. Azm will surely give us the edge on IAF . paf is prioritizing Azm 4th gen project is only possible if we have time and money which we don't have so Azm...

India got su 30s they have speed, payload,range we need something which can stay in air longer if air refuel aircraft are taken out so they dont have to land again and again

My bad I didn't know it has already been discussed I'll go through the forum before posting next time.

I don't think JF 17 has more upgrading capacity left after block 3 then I am afraid block 3 is all we have till 2040. But if PAF is satisfied with it then it will work. Thanks for sharing your valuable opinion

Sir if we can't develop a good 4th gen MWF how can we make a 5th gen aircraft surely we dont have the best semi conductor tech or composite tech but we need to start somewhere how did we make JF 17 it was a JV right we can do one with China again and semiconductor technology from Turkey that way...

Yes sir we do lack a good aviation industry but how did we make Thunder? Why not follow the same approach for a MWF it will solve the old mirage problem. I'm sure China and Turkey would help too we can't bet everything on Azm. 5th gen aircraft are difficult to make and use. Too expensive a stop...

Where will the money come to buy them even 36 new medium weight fighters will cost somewhere between 9 to 12$ billion and they'll come with strings attached. If we try a JV then we can have our own fighter in less than a decade . We still dont know what Azm will be capable of and don't forget...

Why does Pakistan need more medium weight fighters : 1) Paf is outnumbered by modern 4th gen medium weight fighters in IAF inventory 2 ) JF 17 is an excellent Light weight aircraft but lacks range and payload capabilities which indian medium weight fighters have . 3 ) JF 17 cannot take the...

1)Introduction: My name is Adnan I am from Pakistan,Abbottabad. I have recently completed my fsc and looking forward to joining a professional university.My interests are gaming,reading and reading about defence stuff usually from pdf quwa,air/navy recognition or Jane's . 2)how did I...