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There's no source for it,Jianzhou Jurchens(forebearers of the Manchus) and the "Raw" Jurchens had different lifestyles. If you rely on Wikipedia for history then I'm afraid you don't have solid foundation to begin with.

EastSea just repeats the same crap over and over again until someone will believe in his nationalistic rhetoric. If you even bother to read historical sources you would see that Manchus are not nomadic and lived out sedentary lifestyles.

Guess what? Where is Wuyue,Minyue and Nanyue today? They are gone and the remnants are Sinicized,also they are not Vietnamese.

I believe our nationalistic Vietnamese friends are quite upset calling us ethnic slurs and degrading our culture. Credible books already list the 4 great inventions,what have Vietnamese invented throughout their history? The so called "Confushit" culture is what ancient Vietnamese...

EastSea it doesn't matter what Dai Viet su Louc stated,international scholars don't recognize it,there is no archaeological evidence and ancient Chinese texts never speak of its existence. Its quite obvious that nationalistic Vietnamese suffer from an inferiority complex,living under the shadow...

Including Vietnamese doesn't mean all of them are Vietnamese,are Eskimos and Aztecs the same ethnicity just because they were labeled Native Americans? It doesn't matter who owned the land 2,000 years ago,surely it was not the Vietnamese but various speakers of Tai Kadai/Hmong Mien etc. You...

What a blatant lie,gunpowder,wood block printing,compass and paper making are Chinese not Vietnamese in any shape way or form.

ViXuyen keep on repeating your delusions that Vietnamese invented high culture and rice domestication,maybe one day they will come true.

For the nth time the natives of Fujian got siniczed or replaced its quite boring repeating the same thing over and over again. Not only did I mention what happened after Minyue fell but that the paternal haplogroups are similar to Northern Han. I'm not going to do the research for you look up...

The domestication of rice was prior to any modern day ethnic identity,typical of nationalists you seek to project a Vietnamese identity to extinct peoples. Keep on pumping out your propaganda that Southern China was inhabited and ruled by Vietnamese,the whole world can see how ridiculous...

Vietnamese invented wet rice cultivation!?:rofl:

A cursory search on Google books reveals that Chinese invented gunpowder not the Vietnamese. I'll already explained why your history books are full of fabrications but as usual Vietnamese nationalists can't make a decent rebuttal. Instead they reply with insults such as Han Chinese are slaves...

Why do the Vietnamese on PDF always claim Chinese culture and lands? Gunpowder originated in China,no amount of historical distortion will change this.

Address the questions I asked not my ethnicity,Vietnamese like you are living in denial.

Vietnamese nationalists can't even address my previous points about their fabricated history and they have the gall to call us slaves!

Your kind are beyond hopeless,the Zhou dynasty already existed and the Central Plains exerted its influence on all borders. Without Chinese civilization you would lack surnames,writing,bureaucracy etc. Where is the Dong Son culture today?

Neolithic Northern China had a lot more N* M231,N TAT,C* M216.Q* M242 etc while later on O3 P201 and other O subclades start to dominate. What's interesting is that the the subclade of O2b K3 is dominant in Manchus while Koreans mainly have O2b L682 and Japanese have O2b 47z. The O2b that some...

Yea I've been to Guangzhou before so I do have a rough idea what it sounds like,my point is that Vietnamese has a heavy influx of Chinese derived vocabulary and grammar otherwise Cantonese doesn't sound like Vietnamese at all. You're correct the Chinese histories are not always accurate that's...

And they claim it as their own and that China copied them:omghaha:

Just like how Vietnam emulated Chinese culture and civilization which they nowdays claim as their own:crazy: