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The burden of proof is on you,you made the claims and somehow I have to do your research for you. The 24 histories are quite accessible,you're just being lazy.

How pathetic just like your other claims you don't back it up when I ask for the quote.

You conflate two entirely different concepts,the Baojia system is not equivalent to waging wars. How does depleting the treasury turn into bankruptcy,you're not even consistent with your wild claims. You claimed the Song waged war to recover money from the Baojia system now when I confront you...

The issue isn't that they can't read Classical Chinese,the issue is that they don't source their claims or they cherry pick the texts.

Are you daft? The main intention of the Baojia reforms was intended to safeguard against rebels as well as provide as a defense against external enemies,the second was to gradually replace the Song mercenary army. Shenzong decided to go to war after Wang Anshi retired,Wang Anshi didn't want...

Your paper doesn't even back up your claim that the Baojia system crippled Song bureaucracy. I already stated that Wang Anshi intended the Baojia system to save money not spend it.

You're not even quoting from the Songshi,you're quoting from some random tourist website. Wang Anshi's death and the humiliation of Jingkang are separated by span of 41 years,you don't seem to realize that Wang Anshi policies were distorted by his successors and misuse of funds. You claim that...

You don't have the same source as me you use some random tourist website to "prove" your claims. It was the emperor's policies that lead to the downfall of Northern Song not Wang Anshi.

Internet tourist articles are not equivalent to works written by Sinologists. My source quotes from the Song Shi as well as other Southern Song sources what does yours quote from? You claimed the Song went bankrupt,now prove your assertion.

Read some books instead of relying on some random internet tourist site. Yea,no big results when there were yearly surpluses of money and extra supplies:woot:

But Japanese are more related to Koreans than to Taiwanese Han.

How can Taiwanese and Japanese be brothers they are more related to different countries ie Taiwanese Han to Mainland Han and Japanese to the Koreans?

No,I've debunked your spurious assertions multiple times while all you do is change the goal post. Your claim "Combined with his other unfavorable reforms as well as government loans to poor farmers, which a lot of farmers took advantage of, eventually bankrupted the Song's government and force...

You don't seem top realize you contradict yourself the reforms themselves are not the problems its the emperor in charge who ordered the invasion of Dai Viet and XiXia. You argued that the Song was bankrupt from the Baojia system when in fact the policies resulted in a surplus,which emboldened...

What a joke,if you can't find it just say so instead of making excuses.

Where are the Song sources that Wang Anshi wanted to invade Dai Viet prior to a Vietnamese incursion in 1075? It doesn't matter what you believe in,Wang Anshi's political reforms caused a surplus in cash and other goods so conflating his reforms with the collapse of Northern Song is ludicrous...

If you want to include non Chinese/Vietnamese than Homo Erectus already had crude tools neither Son Vi or Bac Son is Mongoloid,Majiayao had bronze smelting predating Phung Nguyen,the Dong Son wasn't the first to cultivate rice other sites such as Hemudu predate it. Either way you have nothing...

You can't debate all you do is spew the same lies over and over again.

Yawn,repeating the same debunked lies,do you have no shame?:cheesy: 1.You don't seem to realize the inhabitants of southern China(who domesticated rice) 8,200-13,500 years ago were Australoids/Negroids which neither the Baiyue or Han are descended from. 2.The earliest discovered chopsticks...

There are multiple issues with his reforms neither of which bankrupted the Song dynasty. The supply master conscription which was intended to force the wealthy landed gentry to pay back their share only ended up in decrease in productivity due to poorer families not willing reach the wealth...