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I asked you to show reference that the Andamanese are pure ASI. So where is that? And aren,t u ashamed of not knowing your own history? The Jats and the Gujars were present in Punjab plains in BC era? And who wrote the Vedas and Upanishads? The Jat, Gujar, Balochs and Pathan? How is it that...

The Balochs wrote the Upanishads? Or was it the Jats? Or the Gujars wrote the texts while herding cows?:cheers:

There is hardly any doubt that the IVC and the Vedic civilizations were one and the same and the culture still thrives among the Hindus. This is the truth not withstanding attempts by a bunch of tribal usurpers to kidnap our heritage.

Where does it say the Andamanese are pure ASI? The Andamanese are Negritos and no group in India has Negritos genes. Prove what u said and don't run off as u generally do when challenged. Also prove that Jat and Gujar tribes were IVC/Vedic people.

Neither has a Muslim jat or gujar who did not come to India till 6th century.

He is a congenital liar. What else is expected of low intellect cowherds.

Daddy my foot. I m a Brahmin myself. All I know is that the IVC Vedic civilization was not created by a bunch of low caste cowherds who inhabit Punjab today.

So, what are we to do with these numbers. Hardly changes the fact that Punjabi Muslims were a bunch of low caste herders grazing cattle in the Iranian Plateau when the Hindus were building IVC cities and writing Philosophical treatises.

Shias of India are far more intelligent and educated than the Sunnis who are mostly criminals and gutter scum.

Punjabis can shove their ancestry up their A@@ for all I care.

So much pedigree analysis. These Pakistanis are nuts. I had though all this pedigree bs was confined to dogs.:hitwall: I have challenged @shan to give me ANI-ASI data across communities. Seems he has run off now.

Lying through your teeth as usual. Can we have the data indicating ASI-ANI mix of various subcontinent populations.

With the drying of climate in the Indus valley, most of the IVC population shifted eastward to the Ganga valley and the southern parts of peninsula which were wetter. Here they encountered the ASI people, intermixed and the caste system was created. In fact, Punjab itself was not resettled for...

Jats and Gujars victors?? You must be out of your mind! They were just a class of agricultural and pastoral people.

Who told you that they were victors. They were just a flow of people from Eastern Iran who migrated into Sindh over a period of time. Even victors get only Kshatriya status. Never Brahmin.

Raza is not Hindu. Razdan is.

It was not just the financial burden but the humiliating method of payment. The payee had to personally go to the collector and pay the tax in a most humiliating manner.

Yes we all know Kashmiri Hindus converted under extreme pressure. Situation was so oppressive that there was shortage of pujaris for temples. So all Kashmiri castes were declared as Pundits. So, today, the only caste among Hindu Kashmiris is Brahmins.

Well its well known that Jats and Gujjars are the White Hun Hordes who came to India around 6th Century AD. Surely cant be the IVC people. It then has to be the other original Hindu castes.

Dar is a kashmiri surname. cant say if it was only used by brahmins.