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I wouldn't mind if they go for a small number of Altay MBTs, but do so on the grounds of (1) giving the Army a heavy MBT and (2) accessing some of the technology for re-use on the al-Khalid series. Imagine taking the Altay's armour technology and subsystems and developing a new gun turret for a...

You noted earlier that the Navy is a secretive organization, so I imagine that this is merely the tip of what is possible in terms of Turkey, submarine technology (or subsystems), etc.

Yep. Just look at the work HIT did with changing the gun turret of the T-59 for al-Zarrar (pictures above). With enough investment, I am sure they can come up with a very good system, if not by al-Khalid II, then al-Khalid III.

Thank you for your response sir. I have no disrespect for those serve, just as I have no disrespect for the humanitarians who go into dangerous areas of the world to help their fellow human beings, or the political activists who stand up against tyranny with nothing but their words, only to get...

I understand that the PAF defined the JF-17's SOW capacity to conventional warfare, fair, the question I and some others have is, why not strategic? Yes, the Mirage ROSE can do it ... for now. The Mirage is a much older platform and it will not be long before it is retired. Granted the PAF could...

@Blue Marlin I look at it from the standpoint that the JF-17 is going to be the most pervasive fighter in the PAF. Why wouldn't you want to draw the maximum flexibility of such an arrangement, i.e. be able to position theoretically any JF-17 squadron for any role within what is capable of the...

If the PAF wants to design its own fighter, that's fine, but it needs to be done in a transparent process with informed and competent outside experts to ensure that the right requirements are being defined. If I was Prime Minister, I'd be working to ensure that Pakistan is a proactive...

The engine is likely to be the Rolls-Royce EJ200, the radar will developed in Turkey by Aselsan, the air-to-air missiles are being developed in Turkey by Roketsan. BAE Systems from the U.K is being contracted to provide expertise and R&D support for the fighter, but this isn't a partnership...

BTW do you have an idea of what U.S. components will be used on the TFX?

Depends on the technology. Yes, Turkey will tap into Western expertise, but the "joint development" is more of Turkey buying that expertise with as much ownership rights as possible, which will enable them to re-export. Some parts of the TFX shouldn't be an issue to acquire, others maybe. That...

This is circular logic, sir ("this is not PAF's conclusion, therefore it is just an opinion"). You haven't conclusively addressed @MastanKhan's opinion on its own merits. Secondly, even the PAF's determination of policy is ultimately just an opinion, albeit an informed one, but an opinion all...

Lol - Jane's just said there's an al-Khalid II, I added the finer details of discussion (e.g. 1500hp Ukrainian engine, new internals, etc). That said, we could also consider changing the turret for al-Khalid 2, especially if we manage to acquire improved armour technology. Ukraine did it with...

For LIFT we will have JF-17B.

I think it's an issue of gains versus costs. I don't think a smaller - conventionally-focused - Ra'ad is an unreasonable project, but it would still be an expensive missile. At best, you could tip it off with a high explosive warhead, but it'd be good for taking out hardened structures and...

I don't have much to add, but we need to remember, the Ra'ad is principally for strategic - i.e. nuclear - strike. While a great conventional munition, the PAF is not factoring the Ra'ad in as a conventional stand-off weapon (SOW). This is important. If the Ra'ad is not a conventional SOW, then...

What I am not understanding here is that if Selex is unable to offer anything like CAPTOR (with its costs and all), then why cannot we agree to a Selex kit in between that and a Chinese kit? Or are the Chinese promising something that is just really high quality (relative to cost)?

I agree - one of the core benefits of the JF-17 is that it is relatively affordable, not necessarily "cheap." Yes, it can be 'cheap' if one needs a functional platform with baseline air-to-air and air-to-surface capabilities, but as mentioned by you numerous times, the savings we accrue in the...

The Leonardo/Finmeccanica Skyward is podable. "SkyWard has been designed and developed to satisfy the more demanding requirements of 5th generation fighter aircraft with an embedded solution. A pod configuration is also available to allow easy installation on existing platform."...

No one's saying it, but it seems all of us here want something that at least resembles the SCAR (e.g. BREN), if not the SCAR itself. If not a new design, then a credible looking one akin to the HK-417 (e.g. MPT-76).

For IRST the PAF could go for a podded solution using an off-the-shelf design. This is what the U.S. is doing with its F-16 an F-15s (via the Legion IRST pod).