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If only our thick leaders had the braincells to prioritize trade agreements with friendly nations. Unfortunately, the focus of the corrupt bunch is to burden the country with more debt and beg for more aid in the process.

Not at all brother. It won't affect the economical aspect of JF-17 in any way. The bulk of JF-17 fighters will not be integrated with Western avionics and weaponry. In the article it's clearly stated that only the first 50 (with an option of another 50 Thunders) being integrated with French...

That's true and a very valid argument. Still, ruling out the acquisition of L-15 in my opinion doesn't do any justice. Perhaps PAF might be looking into buying an elite squadron of advanced trainers in order to guarantee a smoother transition to F-16 and FC-20.

Bro, please stop comparing cucumbers with tomatoes. All advanced fighters have a similar look as L-15. Secondly, have you actually compared the specs of JF-17 and L-15? If not, please do that before making such a comment. Also, who told you that JF-17 is a front-line fighter of PAF? JF-17 is a...

Rubbish. Just because PLAAF hasn't thus far shown any interest or commitment doesn't mean that PAF won't get it. If PAF shows genuine interest you'll see it flying in Pakistani stripes and colours. The L-15 has been pitched to Pakistan before. The Chinese are interested in selling this wonder...

The unit cost of L-15 is approx. that of JF-17. L-15 is one of the best advanced trainers in the world today. Very interesting development!

Like as if Rafale, F-18 fighters etc. are going to win us any wars. You need to realize that Pakistan's strength ultimately lies in its deterrence policy. As long as a strong and credible deterrence capability is at disposal the chances of an all out war are very slim. Besides, you cannot...

Why should the Chinese contribute in a war they have no hand in? Why should the Chinese get involved in this mess?

We've been hearing such promises for months and years now. The Americans haven't even delivered the outstanding reimbursements for the expenses made in the WoT. I don't expect much.

Possibilities are endless. Especially in the case of China. China will never reveal her best capabilities to the world. That makes perfect sense.

^^ Just keep your eyes open and you'll be surprised. The Chinese have been working very hard behind the scenes and will not reveal their capabilities so that people like you can keep on guessing.

Some very simple questions. How do you suggest to counter the threat of Su-30s and Phalcons? Do you have the means and resources to acquire expensive Western fighters? If not, why aren't you willing to accept that PAF is doing utmost by initiating JVs with China which are well within our grasp...

^^ You people always fail to understand the general opinion versus the GoP. Once you learn to differentiate between both you'll understand the picture.

^^ LOL Good to see that I again hit a nerve somewhere. Keep on believing in your one-sided conspiracy theories Indian in disguise. Adios! :whistle:

In addition, members are free to express their opinion but facts must be independently verifiable (public domain). Who says so? Just because you disagree with someone's view doesn't necessarily mean that it's true or untrue. Besides, I haven't heard nabil mentioning that the focus interference...

Look who is at it again, Mr. know-it-all. Instead of burning out of rage and jealousy just accept that China Pak relations are only going to solidify in the coming years and decades. That also includes access to military bases in Pakistan for China! Don't act like Balochi's are aliens from...

^^ Whatever dude. I'm not wasting my time here. Keep up the rant. I've expressed my two cents. Agree with it fine. If not, I'm not going to have any sleepless nights over it. Adios! :wave:

^^ Why are you suddenly throwing fits? It's a discussion forum so please let everyone express their opinions, thoughts and wisdom freely. Whether that can/cannot be backed with a source shouldn't really matter. It's a discussion after all. Either contribute or don't, but don't tell others to...