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  1. Chaplin009x

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    information about peace bima sena 1 and 2 are widely available in open source. What do you mean? I'm asking the offset of f 35, if you still don't know why don't you find out? are you american? if you are indonesian i am also indonesian as you are, if you ask bmp 3, i ask what is the ToT from...
  2. Chaplin009x

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    alman helvas is a pure defense consultant i think, if he suggests buying US stuff, then is he not considered a us salesman? If you question the offset obtained from the purchase of Su 35, then what do we get from the US if Indonesia only buys F35 in small quantities? still in the exploration...
  3. Chaplin009x

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    The conversation goes too far and there is a lot of speculation and even freestyle. If entering politics that means TNI reform is still in doubt, while you elect your own president. back about fighter planes. actually the most important thing for Indonesia or TNI is if all TNI AU fighter jets...
  4. Chaplin009x

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    entrust to the current authority. all policy makers, they don't need mickey mouse bullshit. yes, we cannot be too naive, politics are uncertain.
  5. Chaplin009x

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Since the beginning of CAATSA was the cause of the rise of rafale drama, I think the Air Force will depend on the fleet they have now with modernization that has just begun. assuming we face an economic slowdown due to the corona virus effect. but if the procurement of f5 replacement aircraft...
  6. Chaplin009x

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    https://m.merdeka.com/peristiwa/dirayu-as-tni-au-tak-akan-berpaling-dari-sukhoi-su-35.html clarify, who's called a Russian fanboy
  7. Chaplin009x

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    if only insulting personally, I can too, if you judge me troll I judge you crazy. can't be like that. this is an open forum, you are free to argue. and I have read everything from Windupramarta and there are written technical specifications and requirements, and whether only changing some part...
  8. Chaplin009x

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    they already have a design and offer :). Indonesian side give "requirements", technical specifications etc. and they just adjust it. they "provide" job training and Indonesian engineers are sent to Turkey for the next stage which is my interpretation. I will not force you to agree with my...
  9. Chaplin009x

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Scroll up sir.
  10. Chaplin009x

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    I have replied to your comment, sir. just ask Mr. Windupramarta. if screenshots / answers from mr. windu can be shared here it will be very good. and can embarrass me :) and deny my source. from that source I made an interpretation.
  11. Chaplin009x

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Ok2 tq brader https://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkey-indonesia-agree-to-develop-medium-weight-tank------82091 Turkish FNSS Defense Systems, the leading land combat systems company in Turkey, will provide job training to Indonesia’s state-owned PT Pindad for the medium-weight tank’s design and...
  12. Chaplin009x

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    I do not understand why you have to attack personally. in the picture looks different only camo. just ask sir. if the answer or screenshot can be displayed here would be very good I think.
  13. Chaplin009x

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    https://www.janes.com/article/65134/light-weight-low-profile-indodef16-d1 I agree if we are involved in the prototype development stage, but the rnd has been completed by Turkey and the design is ready. this makes sense and it's not wrong if I think pindad buys a license, because the design must...
  14. Chaplin009x

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    I just can't believe a presumption (bisa jadi) because you are an old member you do not accept if I refute your words. I searched in open source and what I found was that Kaplan was ready with such a design before there was an agreement with Indonesia, and you just gave the source an account...
  15. Chaplin009x

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    And then who are you?! Before there was an agreement, the Kaplan was already formed in such a form. why not be honest, Pindad has not been able to make it independently, therefore we are collaborating with Turkey, all the processes of TOT Submarines and LPD Korean / light frigate and our...
  16. Chaplin009x

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    rnd? ammo? please give us a source. I think we only bought a Kaplan license. which was fully designed and fully developed by Turkey. Correct me if i'm wrong. ok if this is the LRIP phase. I am waiting for the contract value from the Philippines of course if we get it, so it becomes a little...
  17. Chaplin009x

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    i know it's seconhand. 135 for 18, the price per unit is 7.5. there are several brand new MBT that are much cheaper. Even if you associate it with economic theory, for vehicles categorized as medium tanks with 105 mm cannons. it's still too expensive lol. I am trying to ask and discuss whether...
  18. Chaplin009x

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    135 million dollars for 18 medium tank units, while 280 million dollars, got 103 mbt leopard and an additional 50 ifv marder *correct me if i'm wrong, is the price really expensive or license fees / TOT or other party fees?
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